Drug Warrior Pork-Chopter Starts 80 Sq. Mile Fire Near San Diego

CNN ^ | 8/8/2002 | AP

[vin-one]

Thankyou for your service to our country,

But don't confuse the issue, the WOD is wrong, MJ should be legal.

the war on MJ, is a big waste of gov't resources, that could be used on the war on Terror....

Or use the money on real criminals....

[vin-one]

ping to ya, CJ, KC are here spouting there BS again....

[Travis McGee]

This is one way to destroy any suspected marijuana plants.

[Libertarian Billy Graham]

The aircrew in that chopper were in the National Guard. These are reservists.

In this thread all of my comments on the CNN article have been directed toward the "silent majority" of Americans (as Tricky used to call them) who empower the drug soldiers--although the order takers certainly have blood on their hands and their souls are equally in jeopardy.

You may not think so now, but the day is approaching when you will find out that the libertarians were right about personal responsibility.

You may think that you can skate right through the Judgement by telling your Creator:

"I didn't know the difference between vice and crime. I didn't know that it was a crime (with victims) when I helped install into power a ruthless coalition of Bootleggers and Baptists. How can you put responsibility on me and expect me to do the logic and figure out that the police state I helped create was in fact a huge crime and not a 'noble experiment.'"

I was on a drug interdiction mission in April

There's still time to repent.

[Libertarian Billy Graham]

I imagine that if anyone living in one of those 25 houses wasn't anti-WOD before, they are no doubt leaning that way now!

A few San Diego soccer moms may now be able to do the cost/benefit analysis comparing the value of having the "village" protect their little Johnny from inanimate objects with the cost of burning their village.

But the big question is how many of them will ever be able to this cost/benefit analysis: "Let's see, what shall it profit a soccer mom if she commits great crimes and gains the whole drug free utopian world and loses her own eternal soul?"

[gcraig]

Soldiers who hunt down their fellow citizens for smoking weed.. they disgrace the uniform themselves. Remember your oath to defend the Constitution?

What is your suggestion? Should I and others in uniform openly defy our leadership? Should I risk court martial and prison time so you can smoke weed? Is it more important to you to be stoned than for me to protect and raise my family?

If you want to implement societal change, you should go after the legislative branch of our federal government. You instead choose to go after the executive branch, of which I am a part. This tactic is wrong and dangerous.

If you think that military members that follow the orders of our civilian government disgrace our uniform, then you should equally think this of police officers who enforce the laws of our civilian government. So, if you get rid of the military and the police, what would America look like? A bunch of whacked out stoners? Whatever.

[Lexington Green]

Cops are only as good as the laws they enforce. Soldiers are only good as the leaders they follow.

[gcraig]

Cops are only as good as the laws they enforce. Soldiers are only good as the leaders they follow.

I don't follow your logic. The soldiers that died defending our freedom during the Clinton presidency are not heroes in your mind, they are only as good as Bill Clinton?

[gcraig]

The morons should be jailed and charged to the max.

What morons? The government officials that ordered the reservists to conduct this mission? Or are you implying that reservists themselves are morons and should be jailed? I'll come out swinging if you attempt to blame the military members.

[Lexington Green]

"Should I and others in uniform openly defy our leadership? "
Yes, if you think it is wrong to use the military against our own citizens because they smoke weed. I want good soldiers to protest this anti-drug mission. You can be a Good Soldier without being a Good German.

"Should I risk court martial and prison time so you can smoke weed?"
Yes. You took an oath to defend the constitution - which means you should protect your fellow citizens rights to do any damn thing they want to, as long as it ain't hurting anyone. A large percentage our your fellow citizens know that pot is essentially harmless, unless a cop or soldier kills you for smoking it.


"Is it more important to you to be stoned than for me to protect and raise my family?"
If you are choosing to protect and raise your family by turning the army loose on your fellow citizens, then your children will inherit the tyranny you support. I would hope they are raised to love Liberty.

[tacticalogic]

If you want to implement societal change, you should go after the legislative branch of our federal government. You instead choose to go after the executive branch, of which I am a part. This tactic is wrong and dangerous.

The Controlled Substances Act of 1971 gave the power to determine the scheduling and enforcement policy to the AG and the head of the DEA, both political appointees, and members of the executive branch. The whole process seems designed to enable both branches to engage in a lot of round-robin finger pointing that insures that nothing gets done, and nobody gets the blame.

[Lexington Green]

"If you want to implement societal change, you should go after the legislative branch of our federal government. You instead choose to go after the executive branch, of which I am a part. This tactic is wrong and dangerous."

The military entered the drug war via Executive Order... posse commitatus was suspended by the stroke of Bush Sr.'s pen...

[afuturegovernor]

Using the correct title doesn't apply to libertarians huh?