Bush ready to declare war

The Observer (U.K.) ^ | 08/04/2002 | Peter Beaumont, Gaby Hinsliff and Paul Beaver

[Prodigal Son]

Then you'll be at the head of the line to volunteer, right?. Let us know what your MOS is.

I volunteered specifically because of Desert Storm in 1990. Gave up a good job and left behind a wife who was carrying my baby. MOS- 11 Series, specifically 11C- I refused the recruiter's non-combat job offers.

Why? Do you reckon nobody out there is willing to put their money where there mouth is? Others in my family before me volunteered for Viet Nam and others served in WWII and I imagine in other wars as well. I would expect my son to do the same and I hope when he gets old enough, I HOPE if his country needs him he will be the first in line at the recruiter's office- even if it kills him.

There are worse fates than death and there are worse ways to die than in the service of your country and I would rather see my son fall in defense of his country and freedom than sitting placidly on an airliner as Jihadis fly it into a building. Besides that- we have a totally volunteer military and they are not children. They have made their own choices in this matter and what their parents think is not really an issue. Would it make you feel different if the members of the military took a vote on the issue and they decided "YES! We might die, but we want to do this thing"? What would you say then? "Oh well they decided they want to- I guess it's ok"?

Police officers and firefighters put their asses on the line daily too- I NEVER hear anybody bitch about that. Peaceniks should be picketing City Halls across America demanding that their little boys and girls not be sent out into the dangerous crime ridden streets- it's the same thing. They're out there facing down a danger so you don't have to and instead of railing against the process, you might honor their sacrifice a bit, weep for the ones that fall and keep them as heroes always in the Valhalla of your memories and heart- that's all a warrior asks.

[sinkspur]

Your "I'm too old" is a the typically convenient excuse reserved for cowards and armchair generals. You'd wash out after three days anyway.

You're so funny. Grouchy, surly, angry, touchy, panties-always-in-a-wad, but funny.

[justshe]

Good thread here on 'disruptors'. Might want to check out before playing their game. In-House War: For at least one, the goal was to drive people away

[grumpster-dumpster]

Your post #33:

I've read angry comments here; I've read idiotic comments here; I've even read vulgar comments here. But until your post #33 ...I never read a comment from an angry, vulgar, idiot.

[J. L. Chamberlain]

If the Marine Corps needs this 40-year-old to re-up to fight Iraq, all they have to do is send me the draft notice.

What? Earlier today you were retiring, now you want to head off to Iraq? Which is it man? The golf cart or the Humvee? ;)

J

[Grut]

This isn't a war. It's gonna be a turkey shoot.

Maybe. Or maybe Saddam starts attacking our few forces in the region as soon as we say we're coming. In which case he could do them a lot of damage; he hasn't got much quality but he does have numbers and to cite a famous axiom, "Quantity has a quality all its own."

[CROSSHIGHWAYMAN]

To call you a sheep would insult the animal.

You don't know a thing about me except that I am very opinionated.

Unlike a sheep or your favorite, a weasel, I'd prefer to be compared to a wolverine.

As for golfing somewhere in Florida.......I was an assistant pro 30 years ago. I'll bet I could beat you using a five iron and a putter! :>)

[Admin Moderator]

And you post in the religion forum?

Wishing someone's kids to be killed is reason enough to remove someone's account. Please don't do that again. Thanks, AM

[Crazymonarch]

The crazy fundamentalists got 43 million dollars last May off Mr Powell and we knew at that stage exactly what sort of scum they were by then and what their regime was like,then something went a little sour...anybody who'd care to look with a good search engine can ascertain the basic storyline from reputable sources,most that did and posted it have been banned from this site...by all means go over there and have a turkeyshoot,yes Saddams probably a danger but Id have to say you'd have to be seriously stupid not to consider Syria,China,Korea and others joining the fray in some form or another,between all those COSCO containers from communist china unchecked,CIA trained arabs wandering over the borders,etc etc Id say you'd have to be seriously stupid not to expect major trouble in the US,and it is expected FEMA's current mission is coming up to speed in the tent city department.

[Admin Moderator]

Thank you for your service. Our country is endebted to people like you.

But please stop with the personal attacks. They are not welcome here. Thanks, AM

[Texasforever]

"Quantity has a quality all its own."

I don't want to minimize your statement but remember that IRAQ had the "8th largest army in the world". That army was very gung ho right up to the time they met a modern army. This time that same army knows exactly what it will face from day one. Saddam’s biggest problem is not the United States; his problem will be with his own military. There are sources that have stated that there are already significant desertions in the ranks.

[VaBthang4]

((((((((((((((((((((PING)))))))))))))))))))))

[SamAdams76]

Didn't say I was retiring, just that I could retire if I wanted to. All I'd have to do is sell my overpriced home and pay cash for a smaller home in a cheaper part of the country. Of course, if I wasn't married with kids to raise, I'd probably have done that already. I'd plant a mobile home on some land my parents have in Alabama and all I'd need is beer money, a little food and a connection to the Internet. My wife calls this desire a mid-life crisis.

Speaking of which, a deployment to Iraq would certainly do wonders for my mid-life crisis!

[J. L. Chamberlain]

Just ribbin' ya, mate!

J

[desertcry]

The President cannot declare war Correct, but he can send the worlds most powerfull military to iraq, and take care of saddam.

[mn_b_one]

Everyone is arguing on this post about people going to fight the "war on terror". We have plenty of personell. We need to drive home some real fear in the countries that harbor terrorists by making an example out of, say Iraq. Lite'em up with a happy mushroom, make'em into a parking lot. The tell the other countries that if they don't start cooperating with our demands, they will be lit up. I can't imagine where we would be today if the people who are calling the shots would have been in charge on Dec. 7 1941. We would be speaking japanese.

[peedee]

Mine was 11-b you know what that is don't you.

[Tailback]

Good point on disruptors. My guess is that having activist conservatives is really freaking out the libs out there. Here in Oregon the libs are attacking talk radio and it seems to me that FR occasionally gets waves of disruptors doing the same thing. Instead of being driven away, we should realize that what we do here on FR is obviously having an effect and keep on keeping on!

[jwfiv]

Reading this max61 character was burnin' me, till I made it to your reply "...panties-always-in-a-wad..." and I laughed and lightened up and cooled down.

Whatta classic maroon he is, a disrupting maroon.

[Pee_Oui]

US and British forces will cut through Iraq like a knife through butter. This isn't a war. It's gonna be a turkey shoot.

And you're a "dreamer".

DL