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Amnesty is Misplaced Compassion
The Claremont Institute ^ | March 27, 2002 | Edward J. Erler

Posted on 08/02/2002 4:02:28 PM PDT by aconservaguy

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1 posted on 08/02/2002 4:02:28 PM PDT by aconservaguy
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To: aconservaguy
Amesty has nothing to do with compassion. It has to do with greed (bribes, cheap labor, etc.), with sympathy for criminals, with dislike for out culture, and/or a desire to make it easy for terrorist and drug dealers to get into this country.
2 posted on 08/02/2002 4:08:29 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: aconservaguy; Tancredo Fan; Sabertooth; Reaganwuzthebest
A big NO AMNESTY and review of the bogus, liberal, interpretation of the 14th amendment by the Supreme Court BUMP!
3 posted on 08/02/2002 4:13:10 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: mhking
a succinct article re: another amnesty will lead to more illegals.
4 posted on 08/02/2002 4:15:44 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Of course it will. I can see no benefits of amnesty for this country, only more trouble. Already we have too many people. Even our Civil War battlefields are being destroyed housing developments. And surely we have enough crime. I read that the father of the killer pedophile Avila was an illegal.
5 posted on 08/02/2002 4:48:48 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: 4Freedom
Another amnesty, such as the one that occurred in 1986, will certainly be a spur to more illegal immigration.

Everyone knows this, yet we keep hearing about more amnesties. Makes me wonder if illegal immigration is just what the doctor ordered in Washington.

6 posted on 08/02/2002 5:01:23 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It's certainly what Marx ordered!
7 posted on 08/02/2002 5:10:22 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: WRhine
ping!
8 posted on 08/02/2002 5:10:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: aconservaguy
There are milions of Mexicans and Central and South Americans just waiting for an amnesty to be declared so the can come north and claim that is covers them because they'd really (wink, wink) were here or, actually, would have been here by the magic date. An amnesty will only encourage millions more to come and if they lose their claim that they were covered under the 2002 amnesty, they'll simply militate to be covered by the next amnesty. Of course, these folks do take the jobs at the low end of the scale. But, in doing so, depress US wages and make it very difficult for those coming off welfare to actually find a job. The illegal aliens begin their climb on a lower rung of the ladder but as they climb, prevent Americans from grtting on the ladder, at all.
9 posted on 08/02/2002 5:11:48 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: Black Agnes
It's certainly what Marx ordered!

The fastest way to a socialist revolution is to destroy the middle class. Latin American countries don't have one, and there's perpetual war. Unlimited, uneducated immigration is eventually going to give us the same results.

Lenin said the capitalists would hang themselves with their own rope.

10 posted on 08/02/2002 5:18:50 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I used to think that supporting amnesty for illegal immigrants was only suicidal for Republicans. Now, looking at what the Green Party is doing in California, it may turn out to be the Kevorkian of both parties.

A Hispanic 3rd Party that could win in all the major cities. That would be a major kick in the teeth for the Democrats.

11 posted on 08/02/2002 5:22:36 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: aconservaguy
Ordinarily these free market types at Claremont would be all for immigration and in the past they were. They shrugged at illegal immigration.

9-11 nudged them a bit.
12 posted on 08/02/2002 5:22:38 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Tacis
Right on! Amnesty is like hanging out a 50 mile high flashing neon sign. Saying come to America illegally and soon enough you will recieve approval and amnesty. Imbecile Americans will fall for your lies and sob stories.

Just look at those disgusting Mexican ID cards. Now other nations are also issuing them to their illegal USA squatters.
13 posted on 08/02/2002 5:26:29 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: 4Freedom
A Hispanic 3rd Party that could win in all the major cities. That would be a major kick in the teeth for the Democrats.

That could turn out to be a silver lining if the Hispanics form their own party, split the democratic vote thereby giving victory to the Republicans, even in California. I would hope though that the Republicans would still reform immigration and send illegals home. A scenario like that could keep them in power, or at least the democrats at bay for many years to come.

14 posted on 08/02/2002 5:33:58 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Dante3
Amesty has nothing to do with compassion.

I've had friends who came here on student visas had work permits etc, who became productive taxpaying members of society, but because over time they neglected to dot all their i's and cross all the t's with INS became illegal.
Deciding to give them a break and not force them to leave their job, their friends and productive life and shipping them back to rotten hopeless conditions in the country they left, is in fact about compassion.

Of course I don't believe in blanket amnesty, but in cases where it is good for us and them, I don't oppose it.

15 posted on 08/02/2002 5:40:38 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I believe the Hispanics have the votes in alot of cities and maybe a few states to win elections. If not now, soon.

That means that Republicans would be trying to deal with two parties in Congress that are (slightly) more liberal than they are. >sarcasm<
16 posted on 08/02/2002 5:41:51 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Jorge
The problem is alot of these immigrants, we're allowing in outside of our regular immigration channels, are not a 'good deal' for us.

I'll bet the Americans that applied for the jobs your friends got don't think they got a 'great deal'.

The immigrants we've allowed in from Mexico send $9 Billion Dollars out of our economy, vote Democrat and use a ton of social services. And that's just Mexico.

Other Freepers have mentioned that Mexican immigrants can claim dependents that are still living in Mexico, on their tax returns, so they pay no taxes.

Others, because they work for cash, declare so little income they don't pay taxes.

We need to start showing some compassion for the American people and get a handle on who and how many others we're letting into this country.

These border jumper's home countries are who should be obligated to show compassion for them.
17 posted on 08/02/2002 6:04:56 PM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: dennisw
Neo-cons support legal immigration, not illegal immigration. After 9-11 some are rethinking their opposition to immigration reform.
18 posted on 08/02/2002 6:43:08 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew
I don't agree. The neo-cons all ignored illegal immigration. I was a paleo from way back who worked for Pat Buchannan. A lot of the reason being our out of control borders. Even our legal immigration is done wrong with little being skills based. With too much family reunification.
19 posted on 08/02/2002 6:47:51 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
The Weekly Standard has opposed illegal immigrationm in the Past. TWS pretty much defines the neocon movement.
I would like to see a modified 1924 act, but it isn't going to happen.
I voted for Pat, but have become disillusioned with the anti-nationalism of many leading paleos.
20 posted on 08/02/2002 6:52:33 PM PDT by rmlew
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