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Kidnapped girls were raped
ABC News | 8/2/2002 | ABC News

Posted on 08/01/2002 8:01:53 PM PDT by Gigantor

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To: ValerieUSA
The rapist was a native American and he had been charged with raping a relative.

How weird --he went from being a "white hispanic" to a native American?

41 posted on 08/01/2002 8:32:30 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: luckodeirish
Yes, the Amber alert was great. This am, while driving to work I saw the alert on the freeway signs, complete with the license number of the vehicle.I saw video of the signs on TV. They're great, but in this case I think they left out one of the most important nugger of information: It wasn't just a white Bronco, it was a 1980 white Bronco that stood out like a sore thumb even before you'd think to look at its license plates..
42 posted on 08/01/2002 8:32:34 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: hole_n_one
He didn't even believe that the gun that was brandished was loaded.

Yep, that's what he said on the videotape on FoxNews. Yet, when ordered (asked?), he held his wrists out there for the duct tape. "Sorry honey, but he's not after me."

43 posted on 08/01/2002 8:33:31 PM PDT by Petronski
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To: luckodeirish
By the way, you'd think Southern Californians would have figured out by now: White Broncos are not good getaway vehicles!
44 posted on 08/01/2002 8:33:39 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Petronski
im assuming that these boys felt that they werent in a position to attack him and they felt he would kill them if they tried. i have never had a gun pulled on me and so im not going to harshly judge them for how they conducted themselves in that situation. have you ever had a gun pulled on you? what did you do?
45 posted on 08/01/2002 8:33:41 PM PDT by CaptainAwesome
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To: Bad~Rodeo
You're right, they deserved to be kidnapped and raped....

Nice excluded middle argument. People need to come to grip with the fact that people can do things that contribute to bad things that happen to them despite the fact that they don't deserve those bad things to happen to them.

46 posted on 08/01/2002 8:34:05 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Petronski
They were raped, and if their parents had insisted on a curfew earlier than midnight, or if their 'boyfriends' had had any balls at all for fighting back guns, it would not have happened.


47 posted on 08/01/2002 8:34:24 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Gigantor
I think those girls discovered last night just how meaningful the words, "I love you," are when said by young boyfriends while parked in the romantic shadows of giant fuel tanks on a hill.
"Take my car, take the money, take the girl, just don't shoot me."
48 posted on 08/01/2002 8:34:59 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Timesink
Now that you mention it, I don't recall seeing the year being on the sign. That would have been a good idea...
49 posted on 08/01/2002 8:34:59 PM PDT by luckodeirish
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To: Petronski
He's not gonna be BMOC (Big Man On Campus), that's for sure.
50 posted on 08/01/2002 8:35:02 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Petronski
Re: "Boyfriends fighting back".....Knife, Gunfight.....
51 posted on 08/01/2002 8:35:41 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Timesink
LOL!
We California folks have severe retrograde amnesia, as will be strongly demonstrated when Red Davis is re-elected in Nov.
52 posted on 08/01/2002 8:36:32 PM PDT by luckodeirish
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53 posted on 08/01/2002 8:38:54 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: luckodeirish
However, I can remember at that age (OK so it was 20 years ago) having that silly "adolescent immortality", where my friends and I never thought we would get hurt, or suffer the consequences of poor judgement.

And this is why parents should pay attention to what their teenagers are doing and say "No" from time to time. All those old fasioned parental rules weren't there because parents got their jollies spoiling their children's fun. A lot of them were there simply to keep the children out of trouble.

54 posted on 08/01/2002 8:39:15 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: no one in particular
He died too easy IMHO...
55 posted on 08/01/2002 8:39:52 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Jeff Gordon
They were raped,... You appear to be delighted with this idea.

You're free to bring whatever beliefs/wishes to the text that you want, but the accent in that quote was on the word 'were' as shown above in bold and in the original by italics (as in, the opposite of 'were not'), confirming the fact proposed by the thread but subjected to so much disbelief by subsequent posters.

I won't wait for your apology, scumbag.

56 posted on 08/01/2002 8:40:36 PM PDT by Petronski
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Kern County Sheriff Carl Sparks said he was certain the kidnapper was minutes away from killing the girls and had chosen a remote location in the high desert. He said the girls had been raped.

"He was hunting for a place to kill 'em and bury 'em," Sparks said on CNN's "Larry King Live" program.

The made the wrong decison, but got lucky. Either he was there to kidnapp and rape the girls or he was just a car thief. If just a car thief, they should all have run away. If he was just after the car he would not shoot them. If he was after something other than the car (the girls) then running is definately the right choice.

In other words running is the right stategy no matter what the motive of the attacker is. He has little incentive to shoot them--why not just let them go and move to a new target in another location? Plus, it is hard to hit a running person with a handgun assuming that is what he had.

57 posted on 08/01/2002 8:41:25 PM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Question_Assumptions
And thank God for those "old fashioned" rules!!
59 posted on 08/01/2002 8:42:06 PM PDT by luckodeirish
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To: null and void
http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/3805102p-4830507c.html

Kern County kidnapper had been wanted for rape

BY LAURA WIDES Associated Press Writer

Published 6:45 p.m. PDT Thursday, August 1, 2002
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Roy Dean Ratliff, shot and killed by deputies Thursday after kidnapping two girls at gunpoint, was wanted on rape charges and had served time for felony theft in at least two states.

Ratliff, 37, a Native-American who once lived in Rosamond, near the lover's lane where the girls were abducted, was charged in October 2001 with five counts of sexual assault for allegedly raping a 19-year-old relative.

Bail had been set at $3 million but he was never apprehended to face the charges.

The rape victim reported the crime to police immediately after it happened in October, said Dan Sparks, chief deputy District Attorney for Kern County.

"He was at large when the case was reported," Sparks said.

"The warrant was more specifically for forcible rape, two counts of rape with a foreign object, attempted sodomy, and sexual battery," Sparks said.

Mandy Baker, 18, a family friend, told The Associated Press Thursday that the rape victim was doing OK.

"She's doing fine. She's got her life back together," Baker said.

A rape conviction would have been a third-strike against Ratliff under California law, Sparks said. "He would have been looking at spending the rest of his life in prison, but that's not going to happen now."

The stolen Bronco Ratliff was driving got wedged on a boulder as he tried to elude sheriff's deputies, authorities said. He was shot and killed by deputies.

Tamara Brooks, 16, and Jacqueline Marris, 17, were rescued from the car by deputies who bandaged what appeared to be bumps and bruises, then the girls were taken to a hospital to be examined.

Ratliff had a series of convictions in the 1980s in Nebraska, according to Doug Warner, Scotts Bluff Deputy County Attorney.

Records show he was convicted in 1985 in Scotts Bluff County of misdemeanor theft. A year later he was convicted on felony burglary charges and was sentenced to 18 months in prison.

In California, he has spent 13 years in and out of prison, said Russ Heimerich, a spokesman for the California Department of Corrections.

In 1989, he began a two-year sentence on second-degree burglary charges. He served a year before he was paroled in 1990. A year later, while on parole, Ratliff was returned to prison, this time to serve a seven-year, four-month sentence for first-degree burglary. He was paroled again in December 1994, Heimerich said.

In February 1997, he was returned to prison a third time when he was sentenced to six years for possession of a controlled substance.

After he was paroled in July 2001, he failed to report again to his parole agent.

"He had been listed as wanted ever since," Heimerich said.

FBI Special Agent Daron Borst in Las Vegas said it appeared Ratliff was the man who stole a 1999 Saturn sedan from a Las Vegas couple on July 18 is the same.

"We're fairly certain it's one and the same person," Borst said following a press conference with the couple at Las Vegas police headquarters.

"He shoved me, I was screaming and he ordered me not to, but I kept screaming," 65-year-old Roberta Young said during the press conference.

"How we both got away, I don't know and for him to be as bad as he was," said her husband, 69-year-old James Young.

Court documents show Ratliff's wife, Juanita, filed for divorce in 1996, but records show that as recently as 2001, they continued to share a home in Rosamond.
60 posted on 08/01/2002 8:42:53 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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