'Safety bullet' invention aims to prevent accidental shootings

News Herald ^ | Story filed: 11:52 Tuesday 30th July 2002 | Editorial Staff

[SafetyBullet-Inventor]

No quite!

The proff will be when it hits the market and it does start saving some lives. Everybody has a situation that will put down any premise you can think of.

THis has its market and it will do as promised. Take a look at the accidental death #s and read some of the stories then come back and tell me I am wrong? If you still say I am then you haven't done your homework.

I have on my team a former swat team commander who thinks this is one great idea. He has stories to. He belives in the product as do a lot of others that know more than I.

Mike Worley Inventor of the Safety Bullet

[SafetyBullet-Inventor]

Untill your kid gets blow away by your gun. Then you get to spend 20 years thinking about it.

Mike Worley Inventor of the Safety Bullet

[SafetyBullet-Inventor]

Get rid of that 9mm and get a 45 and he will stop dead in his tracks. Pardon the pun.

Mike Worley inventor of the SB

[HairOfTheDog]

I haven't read this whole thread, and perhaps you have already heard my particular criticism of your product many times.

This is a bad idea that I would never buy.

With the same amount of thought that it takes to stow a gun loaded with your bullet, one could simply stow the gun with no bullets in it. There is zero benefit to an accidental (child) shooter firing this gun over an empty one. In fact, if you stow an otherwise loaded revolver with this bullet in the first chamber and the child happens to open it first in handling it, they now have a one in six chance that the revolver would be closed with a real bullet in the hopper.

And I for one am not going to build the delay and hassle of trying to remove this one bullet before I have a useful defense gun. I picture a hurried handler dumping all the bullets. I don't know what kind of time I will have, but this is the last thing I want to be messing with. If I had kids, I would rather store the gun empty if I had to, with a speedloader accessible to me, but at least an easier process to master than this.

Under stress your customers are going to disable their best chance at defense and end up with a paperweight. I don't like it.

[Flyer]

Hello HotDog!

I haven't read this whole thread

Have you seen the part about him working with the Milliom Mom March and The Brady Center? Who's best interest does he have in mind?

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[HairOfTheDog]

Hullo Flyer!

Well, I just read up-thread a bit and I see that some are suspect of his real motivation, and some are questioning whether the company is even legitimate.

hehehe - Well, no matter what it doesn't sound like the idea came from someone with a well-reasoned approach to self defense.

[gc4nra]

"In fact, if you stow an
otherwise loaded revolver with this bullet in the first chamber and the child happens to open it first in handling it, they now have
a one in six chance that the revolver would be closed with a real bullet in the hopper."

With one SB and five live rounds, I believe it would be a five in six or better than 85% chance that there would be a live round in the pipe.

[Shooter 2.5]

I understood that nothing leaves the barrel or the cartridge. You still have the problem of it being an explosive by being primer activated. You may have been able to get away with a pin that pushes an outward ratchet design but now it becomes a matter for the BATF and SAAMI.

[HairOfTheDog]

Of course you are right. I originally wrote it "one in six chance that the safety bullet would be in the hopper, didn't like it, and screwed it up in the editing!

[SafetyBullet-Inventor]

Thank you I will check with them and Berry Ammo in the AM

Mike Worley Inventor of the Safety Bullet.

[SafetyBullet-Inventor]

So your solution then is to put all live rounds in the revolver? You still don;t get it kids and adults are dieing every day. This will afford them some protection where right now they have none and if your that worried about it tell the person that has the gun that is unlocked and loaded that he needs to either get rid of the gun or start acting like a responsible gun owner and lock it up when its not on his person.

Mike Worley Inventor of the Safety Bullet

[SafetyBullet-Inventor]

Yet another slam?

Got a better idea, then do something more about it than to redicule me for trying to make a differance.

Mike

[HairOfTheDog]

I mentioned some better ideas, and a critique of your product, in the post above that one. I think the product has real issues.

Then I read the thread and saw that your motives are also in question, if you have countered those questions already I missed it. You have not countered the questions I had about your product.

[gc4nra]

"So your solution then is to put all live rounds in the revolver? You still don;t get it"

#1. I was not talking to you, I was talking to HairOfTheDog .

#2. You are putting words in my mouth, I did not mention putting all live rounds in anything, anywhere in my reply

#3. "I do get it. You and your liberal "It's for the chilrun" BRAVOSIERRA doesn't wash with me. Your just trying to make a profit, BOTTOM LINE!

#4. I advocate safety and that means education(ie:Eddie Eagle), not gadgets. Gadgets just get you killed.

#5. Yes, I do advocate fully loading a weapon, when a weapon is used for self-defence it should be ready to go. If some goblin is crawlin' up your butt, you have enough to worry about, without having to remember your safety bullet.

BTW, I have 3 kids and two grandkids and they all feel safe in my house, because they are educated in the resonsible use of firearms. My two youngest(22y.o. twins) have always been around firearms and because they are educated, they are safe.

[FSPress]

When I read the post the you are responding to and your response it makes your motives here very questionable. Four years ago, you would have been quickly dealt with on this site, but now you have some subtle supporters here. You need to answer Laz's questions because right now you sound like an VPC or HCI shill.

[HairOfTheDog]

Agreed... I didn't see that response by him that was intended for me.

While I applaud any effort to make a buck, I think this is a bad product.

You are absolutely right. A gun is a lethal weapon... Trying to booby-trap it to make it "safer" is silly. And dangerous for people who may need that gun for self defense. If you can't keep it safe from your kids, then don't have it, or at least have it accessible loaded. But trying to keep it loaded-but booby-trapped is a loser.

While I can't advocate anything other than storing guns unloaded and inaccessible when you are not around, education is still a vital step that can't be ignored with kids.

[FSPress]

Any more design tweaks that you would like to help him with?

[FSPress]

Based on your data and claims please support your contention that this device will save lives. Let's have the numbers, not anecdotal stories about this thing will save lives. Cite the statistics that you are using. I don't think that you have anything other than obsession about loaded firearms.

[jslade]

Mr. Worley was killed this evening when his "safety bullet" jammed his pistol and he was killed by a home invader.

[FSPress]

Chatahooche will never be the same.