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Glock vs. Beretta (9mm)
Myself | 07/29/2002 | New Horizon

Posted on 07/29/2002 3:51:37 PM PDT by New Horizon

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To: KneelBeforeZod; Double Tap; bruoz
Gee you guys, I guess I don't know that much about Glocks after all. I'll go rent one and shoot it before I shoot off my mouth again. 'Course, I'm a revolver bigot to begin with so what do you expect...
61 posted on 07/29/2002 7:32:19 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Man from Oz
"I do have a stainless 92FS and (I hate to say it) can't hit the broad side of a barn with it?"

I too have a Berreta 92FS and have no trouble shooting tight groups with it. My only complaint with it, at first, was having to thumb the saftey upwards as opposed to downwards. My first love is the Colt 1911 A1.

62 posted on 07/29/2002 7:36:12 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Mulder
I would recommend that you check out the Sig 226 (home protection) and the Sig 239 (for carry) before buying anything.

My choice as well. They are essentially the same gun only the 239 is scaled down in size so is easier to conceal and not as heavy as the 226. Both are extermely accurate. Very simple design and reliable. I like 9mm partly because ammo is dirt cheap, which means I can afford to go to the range regularly. Also, very little recoil which makes it more enjoyable to shoot a few hundred rounds at a time. They also come in .40 cal and if you get one in that caliber you can get a barrel for .357 sig (or vice-versa).

63 posted on 07/29/2002 7:37:42 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: New Horizon
I wouldn't have either. If I wanted a weapon for home use it would be the .357 Magnum revolver. I had the Beretta and couldn't hit the side of a barn. Plus you have to be sure it has a round in the chamber and all of that business. But for accuracy a Ruger 22 automatic is extremely accurate and I figure three to the head will slow the intruder in short order.
64 posted on 07/29/2002 7:49:55 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: New Horizon

You got to admit, it looks sexy =)

It is also super easy to take apart and clean.

65 posted on 07/29/2002 7:53:07 PM PDT by Crispy
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
What about the Walther .40 cal?

I have the SW99 in .40 which is the same as the walther (the walther may only come in 9mm I'm not sure) and it is a fine all around pistol. I carried it for two years, used it for home defense and shooting at the range for fun.

If you want it for summer carry, get used to wearing a fanny pack though as it's too bulky for carrying with shorts and an untucked shirt.

66 posted on 07/29/2002 7:54:37 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: New Horizon
Glocks are love-them-or-hate-them guns. Definitely find a range that rents guns and try any Glock - hopefully the models you're considering - before you buy.

GUN REVIEWS free from ad-money bias - including numerous Glock models in 9mm, .40, and .45

67 posted on 07/29/2002 7:57:12 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: blackbart.223
Dear Blackbart.223

I wish I knew why I can't group the gun. As they say, its probably the lose nut behind the wheel?

I have a 1911 Colt commander and enjoy it very much. From your moniker I might guess that you enjoy prairie dogs???

Take it easy.

MFO
68 posted on 07/29/2002 8:12:14 PM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: New Horizon
Friends don't let friends shoot Glocks:
http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/glocl/gz-g35-40kb.htm
69 posted on 07/29/2002 8:31:46 PM PDT by Living Stone
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To: Living Stone
Try that one more time
http://communities.prodogy.net/sportsrec/glock/gz-g35-40kb.htm
70 posted on 07/29/2002 8:33:28 PM PDT by Living Stone
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To: Living Stone
Third time may be the charm:
http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/glock/gz-g35-40kb.html
71 posted on 07/29/2002 8:37:04 PM PDT by Living Stone
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To: New Horizon
Go with the Beretta 92 with Pachmayr grips. SUUUUper comfy!!!
72 posted on 07/29/2002 8:46:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: L_Von_Mises
My choice as well. They are essentially the same gun only the 239 is scaled down in size so is easier to conceal and not as heavy as the 226.

I really like the 239 in 9mm-- I shoot it better than I shoot most other guns. I'm also a big fan of the 357 Sig round, so I think my next pistol may be a 239 in 357.

73 posted on 07/29/2002 8:46:50 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: donozark
"feds or bankrobbers"

HA! Thanks for the laugh. I think I am right in between the two!
74 posted on 07/29/2002 8:50:39 PM PDT by luckodeirish
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To: New Horizon
I myself find the Glock 27 in .40 SW to be one of the finest carry guns around. It's light, concealable, durable, and accurate. The .40 SW has the close to the speed of a 9MM and has almost the weight of a .45, making it a serious hard hitting round.



75 posted on 07/29/2002 9:16:53 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Man from Oz
"From your moniker I might guess that you enjoy prairie dogs???"

We don't have prairie dogs here. But I have been known to punch out coyotes from time to time. And at long range to boot.

76 posted on 07/29/2002 9:42:27 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Man from Oz
"I wish I knew why I can't group the gun."

Practice makes perfect. As with any handgun, you have to burn a fair amount ammo before you get good with it.

77 posted on 07/29/2002 9:48:15 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: TC Rider
I toyed with a 9000 a little bit but didn't like the skinny grip on the slide. It was harder to chamber than the 92 and a little awkward for my hand. I did like the de-cocker placement (close in to the thumb and right next to the slide lock), but I'm not too adventurous with my pistol purchases ( budget constraints have a way of making a man selective, I like to think of it as "discriminating". It sounds better than "poor" :) so I'm sticking with the "mini-me" 92 (the "custom-carry")

I can't argue with the look though. Very cool. Although I'm a little uneasy about a pistol that encourages you to "Just do it" :)
78 posted on 07/29/2002 9:50:02 PM PDT by IsItTimeYet
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To: dannyc
A nine mm is just to small IMHO for personal protection.

I've heard that before, but my argument is that I'd rather have three small holes in a dead attacker than one big hole in the wall next to a live attacker. For your average "home defender", a .45 is too much to handle effectively. For one thing, the recoil on a .45 is just too exaggerated to recover from quickly. That gives you one BIG boom followed by a lingering lost second or so while the barrel is brought back under control to place the next shot (the one you won't get off because that lost second was just enough for the assailant to close the distance between himself and the now defensless, previously overly-well armed defender). I've got no argument with a .45 as a defense pistol, it will certainly get the job done in experianced hands. But it will only be effective if the owner spends the time to "get over" the shock of actually firing the thing and spends the time learning to manage that recoil, while the "barrel bounce" on a 9mm is much more forgiving and lends itself to a second or third pull on-target instead of the powerful first pull that careens slightly off-target because the shooter flinched while anticipating that big BOOM.

You're right about the over-penetration with the 9 though. Even a solid center-mass impact has a chance of paying your neighbor a visit after it exits through the "back door" of the uninvited guest. Sobering thought. That's why I tell my neighbors to sleep on the floor and stay away from their walls. Just because I care... :)

79 posted on 07/29/2002 10:09:52 PM PDT by IsItTimeYet
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To: New Horizon
if worst comes to worst and you have to shoot someone...remember that The Media loves to say "SEMI AUTOMATIC" like its the devil incarnate. with years and years and years and years of news broadcasts blathering about suspects having a SEMI AUTOMATIC juries just might be brainwashed.

even if you get off on the criminal end of it (which of I course I think you should) the family/perp can still sue and their jackass attorney is sure to mention you cut them down with an evil SEMI AUTOMATIC

too bad we even have to think about this aspect....

80 posted on 07/30/2002 1:30:34 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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