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Government Offered Secret Gem Deal (Kennedys and Democrat Donor Involved)
The Nambian ^ | 7/26/02 | Tangeni Amupadhi and Janine F Roberts

Posted on 07/28/2002 12:58:46 PM PDT by LarryLied

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I remember a 60 Minutes piece on DeBeers, a long while back. I don't remember a Templesman or Israeli connection being mentioned, but I didn't have enough brain cells to digest it. My bargain basement thinking...I'm intrigued that bin Laden controls the tanzanite market.Hey LarryLied, keep up the good work, you never fail to dig up the stories that SHOULD be in the headlines, but aren't. Anyway, the following article added to my "diamond" education:

http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/4617/africa/afr010429debeers.html

By Lynne Duke
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, April 29, 2001; Page H01
"In creating demand for a product, few industries exceed the success of the world diamond business. From a hole in the ground on a farm called De Beers in the South African hinterland in the late 19th century, Cecil Rhodes, the infamous colonial capitalist, founded a diamond empire that would grow into a global cartel controlling mining, distribution and pricing.

Through deft marketing, the De Beers Group created a mystique of rarity and eternity for the diamond and stoked ravenous consumer demand. Launched from Madison Avenue more than 50 years ago, De Beers's "A Diamond Is Forever" ad campaign last year was dubbed the slogan of the century by Advertising Age.

A host of other companies and countries now are players in the diamond trade, and their output, along with De Beers's, has doubled global diamond production over the past two decades. The trade is so successful that U.S. diamond sales reached record levels last year, accounting for more than half of the world's $57.5 billion retail diamond trade, according to the Jewelers of America, a trade organization. But beneath the diamond's brilliance are rumblings that are shaking the industry.

Carat, color, clarity and cut, the traditional four C's of judging a diamond, have been joined by a fifth C, conflict. The Campaign to Eliminate Conflict Diamonds, a coalition of human rights groups, is attempting to rouse grass-roots outrage over diamonds from war zones that are being sold on world markets.

Rebel armies in the African nations of Angola, Congo (formerly Zaire) and Sierra Leone have kept their cause alive by seizing diamond territories, setting up mining operations and trafficking in stones to which they have no legal right. In Sierra Leone, especially, the diamond trade has fueled monumental brutality from rebels whose signature act of terror against civilians is hacking off limbs. Easily absorbed into the global diamond market, the stones traded by these groups are physically indistinguishable from legitimate diamonds and have found their way into jewelry stores the world over, including in the United States.

The numbers of "conflict diamonds" are relatively small: De Beers says they account for only 4 percent of the global trade, while activists say they represent as much as 15 percent. But all sides agree conflict diamonds are an insidious pollutant in the legitimate diamond pipeline.

At stake, says De Beers, is not only the continued health of the diamond industry, but the economies of such nations as South Africa, Botswana and Namibia, which depend on the legitimate diamond trade, not to mention a host of other mining players such as Australia, Brazil, Canada and Russia.

While diamond councils, the United Nations and lawmakers around the world attempt to create controls to stop the conflict stones from reaching the market, De Beers and others already have begun issuing guarantees that the stones they trade are conflict-free.

In the insular world of diamonds, such guarantees are enough, for some. In New York's gaudy, neon-festooned Diamond District, William J. Goldberg, patriarch of a diamond firm that bears his name and specializes in very expensive, large-weight stones, describes it as an industry of honor.

"Man to man, company to company, where a word is honored. Lawyers are hardly ever used," he said one day while touring his cutting floor, a room as solid as a vault, where the polishing wheels worked on Goldberg's latest batch of stones from De Beers.

Goldberg believes De Beers when it says its diamonds are clean. But his son, Saul Goldberg, scion of the business, says the conflict-diamond issue is unsettling.

"A lot of retailers are scared about it," he said. And some "have asked us for letters of assurance." One such nervous retailer is Michael Kowalski, chief executive of Tiffany & Co. Human rights groups have staged "informational" demonstrations at Tiffany and Cartier shops. And Kowalski has been inundated with thousands of letters that began pouring in earlier this year at the prompting of the coalition. Kowalski answers each with a form letter bearing his original signature.

"The thought that a Tiffany product, no matter how indirectly, could be linked to the horrific events of Sierra Leone absolutely and figuratively makes us lose sleep," Kowalski said in an interview.

Also stoking the industry's fears is legislation introduced last month by Rep. Tony P. Hall (D-Ohio) that would prohibit the U.S. importation of loose diamonds without proof of their non-conflict origins and would limit diamond jewelry imports to countries that are part of a proposed certification regime.

The World Diamond Council, created last year to deal with the conflict-diamond controversy, supports a different bill that would carry less severe penalties. Neither Hall nor his human rights colleagues are calling for a boycott, but the threat of such action is implicit in their rhetoric.

"Any human being knows that if this butchery continues, American consumers, who are the primary source of rebels' funds, will recoil in horror," Hall warned last month on the House floor. "The whole industry is peculiarly vulnerable to public opinion because the stone is absolutely without value but for its sentimental associations, and it doesn't take much to damage the sentimental associations," said Holly Burkhalter of Physicians for Human Rights, one of the key groups in the campaign.

On Friday, representatives of industry, humanitarian aid agencies and activist organizations, meeting in Brussels to come up with a certification plan, said governments were not working fast enough to stamp out the conflict-diamond trade, the Associated Press reported. Such meetings have been underway since last May, with the goal of reaching consensus this year.

Stockpile Cuts
To understand the diamond industry, a good place to start is on Charterhouse Street in London. In a building filled with surveillance cameras and security guards, De Beers stockpiles five tons of rough diamonds, uncut and unpolished.

That represents a reduction in De Beers's famous diamond stockpile. Andrew Lamont, a London-based spokesman for the company, said De Beers cut its stockpile from $4.8 billion at the end of 1998 to about $2.7 billion last year as part of its effort to reduce its role as the industry's custodian and become, instead, more of a retail player.

De Beers is to diamonds what the Wizard was to Oz: the entity behind the curtain, pulling the strings.

De Beers markets two-thirds of the world's rough diamonds and produces about half the total world supply from the 20 mines it operates in South Africa, Namibia and Botswana. More important, though, De Beers has served as custodian of the diamond industry for several decades by buying up excess diamonds on the market to maintain price stability.

In the 1990s, when an explosion of diamonds from Angola burst onto the world market and threatened a glut that would reduce prices, De Beers mopped up those diamonds.

Those Angolan diamonds were from the illicit mines of the UNITA rebel movement, which had seized rich diamond territories and quickly began making billions -- to buy arms and continue a war that has raged for 25 years. In Angola, as in many of Africa's other diamond regions, diamonds are plentiful in alluvial deposits along riverbanks and not nearly as difficult to reach as underground or kimberlite deposits. And alluvial stones often are of the highest quality.

Global Witness, the British human rights group that outted the Angola diamond frenzy in a groundbreaking 1998 report, "A Rough Trade," estimates that UNITA earned $3.7 billion for its diamonds during the 1990s, before U.N. sanctions came to bear in 1998.

Explaining why his company bought a product it now condemns, Lamont said in e-mail, "Up until this date [1998], there was no international law/resolution in place prohibiting the trade of any commodity other than arms from Angola."

Indeed, until 1998, UNITA politicos even held positions in a shaky coalition government while their generals and mercenary allies mined billions of dollars of diamonds. Since then, De Beers has stopped buying Angolan diamonds directly. But other firms do buy them, and there is no telling which stones are legitimate. The Angolan government issues certificates for the legally mined production it controls, but that government is notorious for corruption and fraud.

In Congo, warlords in 1998 began mining illegal diamonds, too, adding to the chaos of the Congolese diamond industry. On Africa's west coast, the same illicit trade unfolded in Sierra Leone, through the Revolutionary United Front (RUF), whose macabre handiwork with the machete received chilling news coverage

. Diamonds had become a rebel's best friend -- a commodity able to move into the legitimate diamond pipeline undetected. Dealers, ranging from multinationals to individual miners, even smugglers and rebels, send their stones to the world's main cutting centers at New York, Tel Aviv, Bombay and Antwerp, Belgium, where the diamonds are mixed and sorted according to quality, then exported to manufacturers and retailers around the world.

In the tightly controlled De Beers network, scores of diamond cutters, manufacturers and dealers from around the globe gather at De Beers's facilities in London every five weeks to receive black and yellow lunch-box containers filled with rough diamonds, and a printed "guarantee" that the stones are from conflict-free countries.

But unless a fraud-proof certificate of origin is slapped on a rough stone from the moment it is extracted from the earth, its provenance may not be knowable, diamond experts say. There is no technology available to reliably trace the regional origin of a diamond.

"Under the current world system, it is impossible to unequivocally guarantee the source of diamonds," Kowalski said. Tiffany, which is a De Beers customer, tells consumers (if they ask) that it is "doing everything feasible to bar conflict diamonds from its inventory." That means Tiffany is part of the diamond council's attempt to regulate the trade. So far, that has been enough. Tiffany's sales were up 13 percent last year.

De Beers's Strategy
Diamonds from the De Beers network are everywhere in American jewelry stores; always have been. And sometime next year, De Beers diamonds will be branded and sold retail here in a joint venture giving the global luxury group LVMH rights to the De Beers name.

Its lobbyists or allies swarm over Capitol Hill, hoping to shape new diamond legislation. Its marketing arm, the London-based Diamond Trading Co., maintains a public relations office in New York at J. Walter Thompson, De Beers's ad agency.

Not bad for a firm that remains under U.S. criminal indictment for a 1996 price-fixing case and whose executives do not set foot on U.S. soil for fear of arrest. But that's long been De Beers's history: squeezing out of tight spots, confounding critics. (The U.S. Justice Department refused to comment on the status of the De Beers indictment.)

Even during the years of South African apartheid, a system of racial repression from which De Beers benefited greatly because it ensured cheap black labor for the mines, the company staved off threats of international diamond boycotts. And in 1994, when South Africa went democratic, De Beers executives emerged with reputations as white reformers for having spoken out against apartheid.

De Beers manages the potential conflict-diamond crisis in a similar fashion. It has wrapped its anti-conflict-diamonds campaign into a broader corporate overhaul, including a buyout that will take it private, a step intended to make the company more competitive. And although its reach once made it the world's most prominent trader of conflict diamonds, the firm has emerged as the industry's leading proponent of reform.

Led by South Africa, the African governments that mine in conjunction with De Beers created the "Kimberley Process," named for the South African town where De Beers was founded. The Kimberley group, which met in Brussels last week, has proposed a global diamond regime whereby all rough diamonds would receive certificates of origin from the time they are mined, so that dealers will know conflict diamonds by the absence of official documentation. The United Nations has endorsed this approach, but diamond mining nations have yet to iron out the particulars.

To fight Hall's bill, the diamond council hired Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld, the Washington law firm and lobbying powerhouse, to craft a competing bill that now is in search of a sponsor. The industry bill would exclude diamond jewelry from certification restrictions -- a loophole Hall and his backers say is dangerous. The legislation, the industry asserts, would be less disruptive of the global diamond supply chain.

"The great concern among the diamond producing governments such as Botswana, South Africa and Namibia is that either the legislation will go so far as to interrupt legitimate supply, which is the livelihood for an awful lot of people over there, or that there will be no legislation to the satisfaction of the NGOs [nongovernmental organizations], who will then mount consumer campaigns that will disrupt supply," said Ted Sorenson of Kennedy administration fame, who is representing Maurice Templesman, chairman of the diamond firm Lazare Kaplan International. Templesman was a key player in stopping diamond sanctions against South Africa during apartheid.

So concerned is Botswana that it has hired Hill & Knowlton to press its case. Botswana's Debswana diamond mining company is the world's third-largest producer of high-quality diamonds and is owned jointly by the state and De Beers.

Linah K. Mohohlo, governor of the Bank of Botswana, takes issue with the growing perception "of diamonds as a commodity which is a source of conflict." To the contrary, she wrote in a statement, Botswana is a peaceful, conflict-free society whose mines produce what she called "prosperity diamonds" that have made Botswana an economic success story. Minerals account for half of Botswana's revenue, with diamonds comprising the bulk.

Even Nelson Mandela, the former South African political prisoner who became the nation's first democratic president, warned in 1999 of the "damage" that could be done to the diamond industry by an international campaign on conflict stones. It all comes down to the image of the diamond and the threat to its market."

"When [diamonds] start to become associated to any degree in the public mind with the uniquely cruel abuses that the RUF has made its signature -- rape and amputation -- you couldn't dream up a crueler or more jarring context for a stone that is a symbol of love," said Burkhalter. "And no one knows that better than the diamond industry." © 2001 The Washington Post Company

82 posted on 07/28/2002 8:12:50 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: LarryLied
Why are conservatives defending Maurice Tempelsman?

First off your Templesman info dumps come from leftist websites. Lets make this clear at the beginning.

Because your posts are all about sliming Jews. I would much rather sit down and eat dinner with Templesman than with you. You would rather sit down with Robert Mugabe since McKinney is a big Mugabe booster and you are pissed that Jewish money just might get McKinney evicted from her seat.

83 posted on 07/28/2002 8:14:41 PM PDT by dennisw
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I said at the beginning of this thread there would be some here to hurl invective at the poster, and some to discuss the article posted.

I guess you've proven which kind you are.

85 posted on 07/28/2002 8:20:35 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Catspaw
I find it most interesting that he's cite McKinney and says nothing about McKinney's support of Mugabe.

Israel supports Mugabe:

Deadly Anti-Riot Gear Arrives

Zimbabwe Standard (Harare)

May 13, 2002
Farai Mutsaka

IN its on-going efforts to silence its opponents, the government has acquired state-of-the-art military equipment and anti-riot gear to help crush anti-government demonstrations.

Investigations by The Standard last week revealed that heavy riot control equipment has been purchased from Israel, a country traditionally denigrated by the Zanu PF government as a repressive Zionist regime and 'puppet' of the United States.

The equipment has already arrived in Zimbabwe and includes customised anti-riot tankers, gas masks and microscopic 'laser guns', similar to those used by Israeli forces against the Palestinian protesters.

The tankers, called Riot Control Vehicle model RCU 4500 I, were supplied by the Beit Alfa Trailer Company and have been undergoing tests at the Police Support Unit Headquarters in the capital.

The anti-riot vehicles include the latest in water cannon technology based on an advanced computer-controlled jet pulse system. Highly accurate pulse firing can be done in three different modes-short pulse, long pulse and continuous stream. The water is shot up to 500 metres.

The command control panel allows the operator to mix additives like scorching tear gas, pepper spray or dye to the water "according to operational needs."

They are also equipped with surveillance cameras.

When The Standard visited Harare's Support Unit base last week, police officers were being trained in the use of the lethal cannons, under the watchful eye of an Israeli expert.

Police sources said two of the tankers would be stationed in Bulawayo and the other three in Harare.

President Mugabe was to have commissioned the anti-riot equipment on Wednesday but had to postpone the event when he flew to the United States for the United Nations Children's Summit.

Meanwhile, home affairs minister, John Nkomo, who was to have been present at the commissioning, refused to comment on the purchase of the cannons yesterday.

"I am sorry I can't help you. I am at a funeral service," Nkomo told The Standard.

Commenting on the potentially deadly machines, a police source said: "Ideally, the equipment should have come before the election because it was supposed to be used during the campaign period. The equipment is heavy and can crush any demonstration."

According to sources, a crack unit code-named Romeo Troop, tasked with mercilessly suppressing mass actions against government, has been established within the police.

The troop, consisting of about 80 men, underwent intensive training at a police base in Shamva and at the Zimbabwe National Army Commando headquarters in Harare.

Meanwhile, the MDC's shadow defence minister, Giles Mutsekwa, said the move to buy arms of war was meant to intimidate the public and prevent them from revolting.

"The intention of government is to keep the people in perpetual fear and they can only do this by demonstrating that they have amassed arms of war. They have committed many sins and they know they deserve the revolt of the people. The arms of war are an intimidatory tactic. They have the cheek to buy expensive gear to terrorise their own people when the whole country is on the brink of starvation.

"That shows you we have an abnormal and illegitimate government and the day will come when people will say enough is enough. All dictators have tried it, but there is no might that can oppress the strength of the people," said Mutsekwa.

The deal to buy the anti-riot equipment was mooted last year when police sought authority from treasury to make a $105 million down payment to Israel's Beit Alfa Trailer Company (BAT) for the purchase of the arms to the tune of $1 billion. BAT is one of the world's leading manufacturers of riot control vehicles.

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The writer of the above and his editor were arrested by Mugabe for writing that article.




Menashe a master of 'dirty tricks'

Vincent Kahiya

ARI Ben-Menashe - the man who set up MDC leader Morgan Tsvangirai in an elaborate operation involving an assassination plot against President Robert Mugabe - is a master of "dirty tricks", the Zimbabwe Independent has learnt. He was described by Time magazine as a "veteran spinner of stunning-if-true-but... yarns".

Yesterday the Independent heard that Ben-Menashe's company Dickens & Madson has been heavily involved in arms for diamonds trade together with senior military officers in Zimbabwe. A source close to the dealings said the company was flying diamonds from Harare to South Africa where they were being cut before being flown to East European capitals to be exchanged for weapons.

Ben-Menashe - yesterday described by diplomatic sources as "one of the dodgiest men in Canada" - is an Iranian-born veteran Israeli spy who worked as a personal security advisor to former Israeli premier Yitzhak Shamir for 12 years.

He served in the external relations department of Israel's Military Intelligence and is a former Mossad deputy chief.

Ben-Menashe is described as one of "six on Israel's top-secret Joint Committee on Israel-Iran Relations, who spent years globe-trot-ting for them, setting up fronts and transferring millions in cash".
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86 posted on 07/28/2002 8:25:12 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
In the Michael Barone article you cite, he specifically says he doubts Jackson or Robertson had any knowledge that their friend Taylor was aiding bin Laden terrorists. To insinuate (even Jackson), much less Pat Robertson, was in cahoots with bin Laden is simply not... kosher.

:)

87 posted on 07/28/2002 8:26:53 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: dennisw
First off your Templesman info dumps come from leftist websites. Lets make this clear at the beginning.

Please read my post and links again. Howard Phillips mentioned this. So did Michael Baron,The American Spectator, Time Magazine and the Washington Post.

88 posted on 07/28/2002 8:28:34 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Amelia; Marianne; LarryLied; BrooklynGOP; Cachelot; jwfiv; Prodigal Son; DallasMike; Hugin; lsee; ..
Quick! Somebody . . . Quick!!!
Warn our friend . . . NOW . . .

 

 

Diplomat in Mideast With "Blood Diamond"

Posted October 1, 2001

LIBERIAN ORBIT,  Minneapolis

Sources in Monrovia say a female diplomat  has left for the Middle East with a consignment of  UN-banned "blood diamonds" for sale.   

The lady, a cleric and relative of the Liberian leader, has been designated as ambassador to Israel. According to our Monrovia contact, who asked that the name of the lady be withheld for the moment, the pieces of diamond originate from Sierra Leone and are worth several hundred thousand dollars. 

In May this year, the United Nations imposed a regime of sanctions on the government of Charles Taylor for what the Security Council described, among other offenses, as dealing in "blood diamonds." The expression is used to describe a criminal arrangement in which Taylor has supplied arms in exchange for diamonds with  the  Sierra Leone rebel RUF, which has waged a war of mayhem against the population in its quest for political power. The UN said due to the support given by Taylor, a co-founder of the RUF, the war and its atrocities continued in Sierra Leone. 

The UN decision followed the report of a special panel of international investigators who established that Taylor was the mastermind in a global syndicate of blood diamond dealing and arms trafficking mostly from Eastern Europe to hot spots in Africa. The panel said the transporting of illegal arms was done by aircraft registered under the Liberian flag. Liberia, which is already under a UN arms embargo, often directed the arms shipment to Burkina Faso as a diversion before bringing the consignments to Liberia and then Sierra Leone and other places. 

The UN banned all diamond exports from Liberia in addition to barring Liberian government officials  and their immediate families from international travel, except for bona fide conferences for which approval must be obtained from the UN. Sources say Taylor has continued to receive diamonds from the RUF, but has found it difficult to market them particularly in global diamond centers like Belgium. He has therefore targeted places like Israel, a burgeoning diamond-cutting market. 

Sources say the new Taylor plan therefore involved appointing a relative as ambassador, which would be a cover for the  diamond trade.  The lady is currently heading a religious delegation to Jerusalem, where she is expected to consolidate her  contacts. 

According to our contact, a long-time Taylor confidante and until recently chief of protocol at the Executive Mansion, Moussa Cissé, has also been in the midst of the diamond dealing. He carries ordinary passports under various names to elude the UN Sanctions, to undertake a number of external shady missions, including the sale of blood diamonds. 

Several international organizations, including Global Witness, Nepenthes and Greenpeace have said the Liberian government has not stopped its dealing with the RUF, and that the UN should expand the export ban to include timber. The groups say Taylor's partner in the timber trade are also involved in diamond and arms trafficking.  The International Sea Transport Workers' Federation, for its part,  is lobbying owners of ships registered under the Liberian flag to reconsider their partnership with the Liberian government,  due to what the Federation says is a link between the money generated in the maritime program, Taylor and the RUF. The Federation says it cannot ignore evidence that some of the $18 million paid by companies to fly the Liberian flag are arming "Taylor's murderous proxies," an apparent reference to the RUF.

A local human rights group, the Liberia Watch for Human Rights, earlier  called on President Taylor "to expel foreign nationals" from his dreaded bodyguard squad, the Anti-Terrorist Unit (ATU), notorious for its acts of terror against civilians. The UN resolution also demanded the expulsion of all RUF militias from Liberia.  In a statement published in Monrovia, the rights group said it was referring particularly to Sierra Leoneans who are "former or still active RUF (Revolutionary United Front) fighters." The group said expelling the foreign security men would be in compliance with the requirement of the United Nations.

Police in the Italian city of Milan recently broke  an international arms-smuggling ring that also involved Charles Taylor. According to the July 8 edition of the Sunday Times in London, the Ukrainian-Russian organized crime group had been supplying weapons to the RUF rebels. Police raided the home of  Leonid Efirmovich Minin, an international arms dealer the newspaper identified as a confidante and business partner of Charles Taylor. Minin was cited in the report of the UN panel of experts as one of the key figures in the Taylor international arms trafficking arrangement. And until his arrest last week, Police sources said Minin was still at the heart of  sanctions-busting operations. The Times reports that Minin and Taylor are also part of a large timber company, which the UN says is reaping huge sums of money for the men. 

In another development,  British Foreign Office Minister  Peter Hain in July said  his government was aware that a former Russian KGB officer was supplying weapons to Liberia in violation of UN sanctions. The Russian, Victor Bout, was named in the UN panel of experts report as a Charles Taylor collaborator. The British described Bout as "the principal merchant of death in Africa," adding that one way to stop sanctions busting would be to stop Bout.

The government of President Putin in the Russian capital of Moscow invited UN sanction officials recently  declared the active participation of the Eastern power in the international effort to implement the UN embargo on Liberia.

With the precious stones now finding their way to the Israel under the cover of diplomacy, Russia and other members of the UN Security Council will probably have to readjust their sanction monitoring mechanism accordingly.


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90 posted on 07/28/2002 8:31:06 PM PDT by Phil V.
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To: LarryLied
Boy this is some heavy work LL- glad to have the info.

Do you know if Tempelsman is involved with Albright or who he might be trying to get with?

92 posted on 07/28/2002 8:33:08 PM PDT by mafree
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To: YaYa123
No...Robertson and Jackson do not have the marketing contacts and cutters to move diamonds. But Tempelsman, Leonid Minin and Col Yair Klein do.

Thought that Jackie O stuff would interest you:-)

Doesn't this story have everything?

Be a great movie.

93 posted on 07/28/2002 8:33:21 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Powerful stuff. Unfortunately "Ronnie and the Supremacists", one hit wonders, just wanna play their only song... Hate the messenger. No rebuttle of the facts presented, just attacks as always.
94 posted on 07/28/2002 8:33:41 PM PDT by Aim small miss small
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To: Amelia
Get to the point babe. If Templesman were Catholic you would hear nothing from LarryLied. Only the fact that he is Jewish gets Lied's attention. You are not living in the real world if you think otherwise.

Have you ever seen Lied complain about the OPEC monopoly? Do you know how many 3rd worlders live like **** in oil pumping operations in the 3rd world? The 3rd world is a very chaotic especially in Africa.
95 posted on 07/28/2002 8:34:31 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
No...Robertson and Jackson do not have the marketing contacts and cutters to move diamonds. But Tempelsman, Leonid Minin and Col Yair Klein do.
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Great! I know it bums you out when Israelis and Jews make some money. You would be a failure if you tried the same in Africa which is so chaotic. Way beyond your pay grade.
97 posted on 07/28/2002 8:40:11 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: mafree
Boy this is some heavy work LL- glad to have the info. Do you know if Tempelsman is involved with Albright or who he might be trying to get with?

Thanks. Getting this much flack means we must be over the target.

First I've heard about Tempelsman and Albright I posted above. Geeezzz....what an interesting character he is.

As you may imagine, I disagree with McKinney on just about everything. But I have to give the lady credit for doing this. Money is no object to Tempelsman. She could have been set for life if she kept her mouth shut.

Now she will probably lose her job and be hounded until the day she dies.

98 posted on 07/28/2002 8:40:20 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
really admire how you stay focused and ignore the goobers..

Yes, great movie for sure....and a grand death scene for the star who plays Jackie O. (Only the rich and famous get to off themselves so elegantly.)

99 posted on 07/28/2002 8:42:08 PM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Tropoljac
What does this have to do with Blood Diamonds, Tempelsman, and Israel and Antwerp? Why are you trying to deflect attention?

Why are you trying to deflect from my post? Run along boy and check out the vicious oil game and OPEC in general. Huge books have been written on this. Way bigger than what some Jews do in Africa. The world runs on oil, not diamonds. But for those who see Jewish conspiracies everywhere I guess the world runs on diamonds.
100 posted on 07/28/2002 8:44:51 PM PDT by dennisw
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