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Wrong Way To Go On Immigration
The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | July 26, 2002 | Joseph Perkins

Posted on 07/26/2002 11:47:27 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr

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1 posted on 07/26/2002 11:47:27 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: Jagdgewehr
Gephardt is a sick bastid. "Let's let the Terrorists in and then we will really show them we mean business"....

What a fu...ng idiot bastard son of a bit.h...

CLOSE THE DAMN DOORS AND CLEAN HOUSE!
2 posted on 07/26/2002 11:54:56 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Jagdgewehr
Of course, the Missouri Democrat knows that his proposal has less than a zero chance of winning approval in the House.

This may be true, but for millions of poor people south of the border and around the world, they don't know that. Gephardt with his big mouth has just encouraged more to come in here with the hopes they'll be amnestied.

But that was the plan all along, wasn't it Dickie?

3 posted on 07/27/2002 4:40:56 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Vidalia
"CLOSE THE DAMN DOORS AND CLEAN HOUSE"

I suppose that we can still close the doors (BTW there is strong support for closing doors even in the immigrant communities), but it is time to forget about cleaning the house, it is simply impossible.

Republicans have to make it no-issue, and the matters to be discussed should be qualifications for amnesty. E.g. it seems to me that 2 years working out of 5 years is way too generous.

4 posted on 07/27/2002 5:20:06 AM PDT by alex
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...but it is time to forget about cleaning the house, it is simply impossible.

Not if we made a real effort at enforcing employer sanctions. If there's no jobs, illegals will have no reason to stay here.

5 posted on 07/27/2002 5:47:43 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: alex
2 years working out of 5 years is way too generous

At least Gephardt is being truthful that he wants to let in the welfare types and hand out citizenship to parasites. The last thing taxpayers need is millions of people who don't work 3/5 of the time.

Amnesty is nothing but a joke ---it invites people to pour over the border, they never really had to work or live here because the "proofs" requested in amnesty mean nothing at all ---the "undocumented" can't prove anything.

6 posted on 07/27/2002 6:17:46 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Jagdgewehr
Why doesn't his home state dump the creep?
7 posted on 07/27/2002 6:23:51 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Jagdgewehr

Then why does it keep being proposed?

I know it has hurt Dubya, and now the Democrats want to anger 66% of the population?

8 posted on 07/27/2002 6:29:33 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"...but it is time to forget about cleaning the house, it is simply impossible."

"Not if we made a real effort at enforcing employer sanctions. If there's no jobs, illegals will have no reason to stay here."

At some level jobs are here, any government enforcement which is going against the economic force would not produce any result (war on drugs is another example), second amendment goes both ways - it is equally impossible to round up a few millions of armed citizens, put them in cattle cars and ship them toward the Arctic Circle and to round up a few millions of armed non-citizens, put them in cattle cars and ship them toward the Tropic.

So, we should not waste our time with pipe dreams - it is much cheaper to absorb a few millions of people who are already here than any cleansing alternative. What we should be consentrated on is put into the same legislation measures reducing immigration pressures in the future - I would think that the most important part should be a guest worker program allowing people to come and go with a job market fluctuations.

9 posted on 07/27/2002 6:32:28 AM PDT by alex
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To: alex

Not necessarily..

Require police officers to check a citizens status during the course of their day, make it easy for them to do so and severely punish anyone employing an illegal.

Cut off from employment and facing arrest and deportation at every turn they will have no reason to remain here and will be financially unable to do so.

And, of course we could start taking out in trade with Mexico the increased burden of ilegals on American society. That would give Fox a kick in the pants.

10 posted on 07/27/2002 6:33:01 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: alex; Tancredo Fan; Willie Green
PS: I hate to hear self righous types throw their hands in the air and act like there is no solution to a problem they really don't wish to see solved in the first place.
11 posted on 07/27/2002 6:36:20 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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But illegal immigrants, even the ones that have been here 5 years can't vote. .......

can they? .....

12 posted on 07/27/2002 6:36:32 AM PDT by Recluse
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""But illegal immigrants, even the ones that have been here 5 years can't vote. ....... can they? .....

The can and they do...in fact if they have an address, the blank ballots are mailed to them. Ain't that some $hit???? Joseph Farrah from Worldnet Daily interviewed a family that did some work for them and the daughter of the immigrants refused to vote because she knew what they were asking her to do was not legal and she also suspected it was a way to find and expel illegals. She actually recieved her blank ballot in the mail. I'll see if I can find the story on the WND archive.

13 posted on 07/27/2002 6:41:30 AM PDT by two23
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To: Jhoffa_
"Not necessarily.."

"Require police officers to check ..."

Yea, and we will win this war the same way we won war on drugs 15 years ago and by Christmas we will have no illegals in our midst.

14 posted on 07/27/2002 6:42:32 AM PDT by alex
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To: Jhoffa_
"PS: I hate to hear self righous types throw their hands in the air and act like there is no solution to a problem they really don't wish to see solved in the first place."

I hate to see Republicans painting ourselves in the corner with non-issues.

15 posted on 07/27/2002 6:44:25 AM PDT by alex
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To: Jhoffa_
"PS: I hate to hear self righous types throw their hands in the air and act like there is no solution to a problem they really don't wish to see solved in the first place."

I hate to see Republicans painting ourselves in the corner with non-issues.

16 posted on 07/27/2002 6:44:50 AM PDT by alex
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To: alex

We haven't won the "war on murder" either alex, but we can make things pretty uncomfortable for people who do it.

17 posted on 07/27/2002 6:45:05 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: alex

First, I'm not a Republican..

Second, 66% approval is hardly a "non issue"

18 posted on 07/27/2002 6:46:21 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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19 posted on 07/27/2002 6:49:41 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Recluse
But illegal immigrants, even the ones that have been here 5 years can't vote. .......

can they? .....

They do in California. This much, I know.

20 posted on 07/27/2002 6:50:36 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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