New York, new hedonists

The Observer ^ | Sunday July 21, 2002 | Tanya Corrin and Anna Moore

[billybudd]

I always suspected Eyes Wide Shut was a documentary.

[Vindibudd]

Well that's a nice name, Billy. Maybe we are related. haha

[CyberAnt]

More of the Clinton legacy!

[Still Using Air]

And all of this is legal? I am amazed.

[JMJ333]

Articles like this depress me. Terrorists? pfffft. Our culture is what is going to destroy us.

[southern rock]

More of the Clinton legacy!

Doubtful. This has been going on since the 1960's. And it even occasionally took place in the 19th century in some circles. But I wouldn't be surprised if Bubba was there.

[independentmind]

Articles like this depress me. Terrorists? pfffft. Our culture is what is going to destroy us.

It's hard not to agree with some of the Muslim criticisms of our culture. And we export this filth around the world.

[galt-jw]

I have a feeling that the US are a bunch of amateurs in this area compared to Europe.

[Malacoda]

Indeed. It's like they've rebuilt Sodom and Gomorrah -- no wonder we're all in a handcart on our way to H3ll.

Sometimes it feels as though there aren't enough of those of us who have morals to fight what our society and culture are becoming!

The article tries to portray these people as down-to-earth and normal, but I cannot imagine that anyone who participates in these events is very happy.

[JMJ333]

Porn and the deviant sexual behavior addressed in the article , rather than being the sign of freedom some here at FR claim it is, threatens both our freedom and our civilization. The central act of civilization is the recognition of another person as a human being. This behavior suspends — if not ends — that act of recognition because it dehumanizes both its object and its subject.

Pray for our country.

[thucydides]

This is the same thing that was going on during the collapse of the Roman Empire. Tacitus, Suetonius, and other Roman writers set it all down. For the young women, it is especially sad. What chance does a decent young woman have in an environment like NY of finding a good man, marrying, and building a happy family life?

[F16Fighter]

"The pagans aren't really to blame for "losing" Rome."

Yeah, like the Liberals won't be to blame for "losing" our Republic.

[JMJ333]

No, it was not the Catholic church who caused the downfall of Rome.

During the barbarian invasions, if it had not been for the Catholic Church all of Europe would have fallen in ruin and the ancient Greek and Roman culture would have been lost. The Church, however, rather than simply fight the nations, converted them.

Because the Church was more or less, from a worldly point of view, dependent on the empire, when Western Europe was overrun by the barbarian nations and the collapse of the Roman Empire was inevitable, it seemed as though the Catholic Church would end, but in fact it was the only thing that survived. In fact it increased.

[Lazamataz]

LOL! Yeah, baby, yeah!

[gargoyle]

...Just remember, that it is a minority of individuals that live this lifestyle, and that's their choice, their culture. For Muslim nations to target the US for the acts of a few is the same as Americans targeting all who practice Islam for the acts of muslim extremists...