Lockheed Martin's embattled jet prepares for first real flight test (F-22)

Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 07/21/2002 | DAVE HIRSCHMAN

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Thanks for the post

[Al B.]

BMP....gotta get me one of these. :-))

[hattend]

BTTT. Love the F-22 although the Northrop F-23 was sexier.

[Bogey78O]

It doesn't hurt that your factory is in the Chairman of the House's Congressional district. ;-)

[NormsRevenge]

Thanks for the post ...

[jimtorr]

I don't see that Congress has any choice but to fund production of the F-22.

The F-15E, as good as it is, is vulnerable in today's anti-aircraft environment, and cannot fly unless defences are first suppressed.

The numbers currently authorized (180), may be about right. I would rather see twice that, though.

If the F-22 is as good as this article says it is, perhaps that explains why the F-23 program is in serious danger of being cancelled. After all, if nothing can touch the F-22, why build another super-expensive aircraft?

A viable threat may have to appear before we pursue the F-23. Sure, the Russian super fighter really is super, but how many have been ordered?

[MindBender26]

allow pilots to share information without using radios/////

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Do they pass notes in class ? :~)

IR data link?. Directed laser data link, ala the Trident subs?

[Bobby777]

the $60 billion that was wasted on the V-22 Osprey could have been put into this program for more of these fine birds ... and conventional money oculd have been spent on proven helo chassis until a viable next-gen VSTOL for multiple troops comes down the pike ...

[Husker24]

Do you have a pic or a link to the Russian Super Fighter, id like to see it.

[Bobby777]

I guessed they meant "voice" radio ... perhaps a direct microwave to satellites where they prioritize / assign targets and the birds hand it back off to the plane? (or laser as you suggest) ... I had read where the F-22 fighters and later would take their target data / threats directly off the birds ... no doubt the military channels of GPS are closely tied-in to all that ...

[pabianice]

Nice looking aircraft.

The bad news is aircraft like the X-45 -- unmanned combat air vehicles. UCAVs will within several decades replace most manned tactical aircraft. Already, trained pilots are being sent to "fly" UAVs from ground stations around the world. The pilots are bitter and disillusioned. But the future is clear. The pilot community will continue only in logistic and combat-support aircraft.

[painter]

"We can't know when we'll face a situation that will require the F-22. But if we wait until we're confronted, it's too late. We won't have time to develop the technology or train people to use it."

One of these days we are going to facing China in a possible war. The more advanced equipment we have to throw against them the more likely they will back down,or it will make it easier for us to take them down.

[hattend]

If the F-22 is as good as this article says it is, perhaps that explains why the F-23 program is in serious danger of being cancelled. After all, if nothing can touch the F-22, why build another super-expensive aircraft?

The Northrop F-23 was the direct competitor to the Lockheed F-22 and lost the fly-off. There were only 3 built and they are in museums. Which super-expensive aircraft are you talking about?

[VOR78]

I assume you are referring to the Mig-35.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/mfi.htm

[hattend]

Sukhoi 37

[TheEngineer]

Also, many wonder whether the F-22, conceived in the mid-1980s to counter the Soviet Union, is the right weapon for a world in which the chief adversaries are terrorists and their shadowy sponsors.

OK... And when a threat arrives, we just have to spend 20 years of R&D and then we'll be ready. /sarcasm. When I look at the F-22, and think of a possible opponent... I think of the chicoms.

[Paleo Conservative]

OK... And when a threat arrives, we just have to spend 20 years of R&D and then we'll be ready. /sarcasm. When I look at the F-22, and think of a possible opponent... I think of the chicoms.

And they will be using Russian equipment to counter them.

[Bobby777]

hehe ... couldn't resist ... 8) Deal of the Century at Amazon.Com

[scripter]

Very cool jet. I don't mind paying taxes for something like that!