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Copter landing surprises neighborhood (Resident opens fire on chopper)
(Hampton Roads, VA) Daily Press ^
| 7.19.02
| Brian Whitson and Patti Rosenberg
Posted on 07/19/2002 12:17:30 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Jonah Hex
Actually, he tried to pop it with an AR-15. Then he tried to cut up the weapon with a saw.Heck, if I couldn't hit a helicopter from across the street with an AR-15, I would cut it up too.
Must have been an hellacious keyhole.
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posted on
07/19/2002 1:50:16 PM PDT
by
Ole Okie
To: monday
I don't know either. I live out in the boonies, so what might be ok out where I live might not be in other areas? I also live in Texas and we tend to be pretty tolerant around here. Unlikely to find people shooting at you for landing on their property. You are, most likely, living under uncontrolled airspace, which generally means that a pilot may land his aircraft at his discretion with permission of the landowner. If the pilot has filed a flight plan, it is his responsibility to notify the FAA that he is down and safe, therby closing it, or closing that particular leg, if it is a stopover flight plan. An open flight plan that is not closed within a certain timeframe of filed ETA (I believe it's an hour)causes the authorities to begin a search.
Flying and landing in controlled airspace is a whole other matter, and generally depends on the airspace classification(B,C, or D) and floor the airspace begins at where the pilot intends to land as to whether the aircraft can be landed under normal operations with or without notification of the controlling authority (Tower/Air traffic Control/ FAA Regional Center).
A pilot can land his aircraft to the ground without permission at his discretion during an emergency or precautionary situation
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posted on
07/19/2002 1:52:56 PM PDT
by
TADSLOS
To: KSCITYBOY
with the copter hauled upside down on a winch (like sharks).
A real FarSide moment.
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posted on
07/19/2002 2:13:24 PM PDT
by
goodieD
To: RightWhale
But which direction? Projectile design could be a factor causing precession and nutation. Elevation of sights? Certainly not downward. No spiraling observed in wind from downdraft, and if the damn thing nods at me, I'll nod back.
To: DoughtyOne
"the government should back off just a tad. People are panicing."
Reminds me of the very funny scenes in the movie "The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming"
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posted on
07/19/2002 2:23:02 PM PDT
by
APBaer
To: William Terrell
I'm thinking the projectile might nose into the wind.
To: RightWhale
Empty 20 round magazine. If miss, hide.
To: DoughtyOne
"Sorry folks, not every situation is "TERRORISM" and this is the reason why the government should back off just a tad. People are panicing."No, some people are just idiots.
To: willyone
They threatened and he told them to get hosed. They didn't arrest him and stopped the over flights. Lucky he did not get shot or put away. Nah, the CIA hates bad publicity. They were just trying to intimidate him and make sure he wasn't some sort of wacko. However, they backed down when he called their bluff. Besides, you mentioned that your friend works for the military in some capacity. Maybe it's just professional courtesy that they let him slide.
He certainly did get their attention though. How else could he have handled this? It's not like the CIA has its helicopter black ops units listed in the phone book.
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posted on
07/19/2002 2:43:57 PM PDT
by
arm958
To: mhking
"My initial reaction was, this had got to be terrorists," he said. "I fired two shots. I tried to knock the windshield out of it. I don't know if I hit anything." Chwaszczewski would not say what kind of gun he fired. He said the helicopter took off and he thought about firing more rounds but didn't for fear of making it crash in the neighborhood.
"It just happened so quick," he said.
Well, it's a good first reaction. I'd be glad to have him as a neighbor.
To: mhking
Wella, wella. WMAL (WashDC) reports that the shooter has been arrested....
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posted on
07/19/2002 3:08:40 PM PDT
by
tracer
To: tracer; mhking
![John Chwaszczewski](http://www.dailypress.com/media/photo/2002-07/3895031.jpg) |
John Chwaszczewski of James City County fired a rifle at a helicopter when it landed near his home Saturday. He later used a saw to cut the weapon, which he dumped in the trash.
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posted on
07/19/2002 3:46:13 PM PDT
by
csvset
To: csvset
Bottom Line: The pilot is an idiot for landing in a residential neighborhood and the neighbor with an itchy trigger finger is an idiot for shooting at him.
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posted on
07/19/2002 3:59:06 PM PDT
by
TADSLOS
To: MudPuppy; g'nad
Holy Cow! I would have just called the police, LOL. Hey, Mudpuppy, are the fighter jets flying over your house? They are over here. All day long. Loud too. Gets the dogs up and all.
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posted on
07/19/2002 3:59:39 PM PDT
by
Teacup
To: Shooter 2.5
"Urban legend. The only thing that hinders pistols or revolvers is the sight radius."
Ah, so who are you? If you're not Henry Bowman, then you don't know what you're talking about :)
To: TADSLOS
You're alot closer than that other Shooter, IMHO :)
To: JusticeLives; NY.SS-Bar9; ctdonath2; 5Madman2; umgud; Cap&Ball; freedomlover; Barnacle; ibbryn; ...
"If you're not Henry Bowman"I mentioned a couple of days ago that if someone starts mentioning movie plots, they already lost the argument. I'll have to revise that to include fiction.
Again, let me say that the only drawback to pistols and revolvers is the sight radius.
To: mhking
Oh, that John Chwaszczewski.
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posted on
07/19/2002 4:22:50 PM PDT
by
Consort
To: Ole Okie
Heck, if I couldn't hit a helicopter from across the street with an AR-15, I would cut it up too. Now now now....
It's a poor workman who blames his tools.
To: Jonah Hex
Should have used a Garand...
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