Kay Henson (spanking mom) back in WI jail. Freep the heck out of Wisconsin!

CP Prosecutions ^ | July 17-18, 2002 | Various

[SpinyNorman]

Guilty until proven innocent Read the story again. She's already plead guilty to "simple battery" (which is probably battery under 940.19(1), a class A misdemeanor) and was sentenced to probation. The maximum jail time is nine months.

Understood. She should never have pleaded guilty to any such specious charge. My point is that social workers tend to be lazy and stupid, and in New England, this slothlike attitude has actually resulted in the deaths of some children.

By "guilty until proven innocent," I mean that in states like Massachusetts or Connecticut, all it takes is an anonymous complaint, and the Dept. of Social Services (DCF in CT) is all over you like a pitbull on a poodle, seizing your children and putting them in foster homes, and you have to prove your innocence to get your kids back. The informant never has to reveal his/her identity, so you have an exquisitely effective means of harrassing someone you don't like, and it has happened many times.

[RGSpincich]

CPS agencies and their actors have NOTHING to do with Child Safety and Care NOTHING about your children. CPS and it's actors, the Family Court, Juvenile Court are UNCONSTITUTIONAL and CORRUPT.

Sound familiar? No, it's not the Grants Pass crowd or the Gastons. It's Ms. Henson's advisors at AFRA.

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[Humidston]

Ohhh can I identify with you! I had one like that too. At 14 mths he awakened at dawn and let himself out the locked front door and was wandering down the street. TWICE.

Guys have no idea. None!

[cherrycapital]

catspaw:>>That's pretty much it. Once she plea bargained and accepted a sentence of probation, she also agreed to submit to their rules. In fact, everytime she goes to see her PO, she has to sign a list of rules, which includes language that says, more or less, the PO can tell you what to do & when to do it.

If a particular probation officer is unusually reprehensible or violates a probationer's constitutional rights, their conduct can be reviewed. For example Bob Enyart was in trouble in Colorado for spanking his stepson and they tried telling him he couldn't appear on "Politically Incorrect" to tell his side of the story because it would be bad for his "rehabilitation." Wrong! The court ruled that Enyart had a First Amendment right to apear, probation or no probation. Since the current round of invasions of Mrs. Henson's rights also began with a denial of her request to appear on a talk show, look for a civil rights action to be filed on a First Amendment claim as well as many others.

[trussell]

I went to the link in the article, and this is close to the top.

7-19-02 morning- Kay Henson OUT of Jail!

I just got a phone call from Kay. She is home, sounds of happy children in the background.

Probation Revoked for "not knowing where her nursing baby was". What hypocrites!

Probation Officer Eilene Haffey said she was going to SUE the Hensons for "making false statements". Then they asked her if she knew they had RECORDED her making those statements.

Hammer the Governor for a FULL PARDON of Kay Henson. Keep hammering the media on this case.

Kay's probation terms had ALL BEEN fulfilled OTHER THAN PAYING $6,000 for the court-appointed attorney. That's the only reason the probation officer was still involved in trying to force Kay to waive her Constitutional Rights. She was still on probation because SHE COULDN'T PAY.

[quietolong]

I don’t know the facts in this case But WI law allows spanking.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Henson's account sounds way too cagey for there not to be more to the story. Like maybe the kid was "spanked" somewhere other than the hiney.

[Catspaw]

You sound like a little JBT. As for you not warning them did you personally advise them of your concerns? If not then you certainly have not warned them of anything. Just shot your mouth off like a true key board commando. Seig Heil Herr Catspaw. You like the sound of that don't you.

You're truly offensive. This is a personal attack on me and against FR rules and you know it.

I'm giving a legal analysis of the situation, given from years of experience. This is reality. Do I like the system? No. Do I know the system? Yes. Apparently, you cannot differentiate between the two.

[Catspaw]

Wisconsin's law does allow spanking. But Henson plead guily to simple battery, a misdemeanor, in a plea bargain. I have yet to find out what the original charge was, or to see a copy of the complaint. When a person pleads guilty, as Henson did, the judge accepts the facts of the case as contained in the complaint.

She could have had a trial. If she had, there would have been a transcript so we could analyze the evidence and testimony from both sides. Her lawyer would have been able to challenge the charges and let the jury decide. She didn't do that. One she was placed on probation, she found out how restrictive that is. Being on paper is not fun.

[Catspaw]

Kay's probation terms had ALL BEEN fulfilled OTHER THAN PAYING $6,000 for the court-appointed attorney. That's the only reason the probation officer was still involved in trying to force Kay to waive her Constitutional Rights. She was still on probation because SHE COULDN'T PAY.

She hasn't paid the $6000? That's $6K of the taxpayers money that the county fronted to pay her lawyer. They can extend her or revoke her for that, too.

[Catspaw]

Since the current round of invasions of Mrs. Henson's rights also began with a denial of her request to appear on a talk show, look for a civil rights action to be filed on a First Amendment claim as well as many others,

Oh, I'm sure of it. Just do the taxpayers a favor: use a private attorney or do it pro se, not the court appointed and taxpayer funded attorney for the 1983 action.

[Catspaw]

Sound familiar? No, it's not the Grants Pass crowd or the Gastons. It's Ms. Henson's advisors at AFRA.

You must've missed this from the website:

Pamela Gaston- Oregon- A Voice for Children- Court Cases
       MUST HAVE! Pamela Gaston's "Sui Juris"

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The website brags about filing 1983 actions. 

 

Click here Click here
Title 42 USC Section 1983 Information
AFRA seeks to foster a LANDSLIDE of these cases!
Declaration of Hostilities
All About Miranda and More!

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If this case is assigned to the judge I think it's going to be assigned to in the ED WI, he'll broom the case out of court as faster than they can blink.

 

 

[cherrycapital]

Listen, pal, I've *personally* seen the "evidence" the prosecution had. The "evidence" was a red butt from a hand spanking that everyone agreed was such. Period.

[Catspaw]

OWWWWWW If the milk is already hardening, hand expression isn't possible. It depends on how bad it's gotten. After 6 to 8 hours of not nursing, it's VERY painful.

The human term is manual expression.  A breast pump is desirable, but it's not needed.  It's too bad she didn't learn this technique.  I did, from La Leche League, and it came in handy (pun intended) on a few occasions.

[Catspaw]

Then scan in a copy of the complaint, post it or post a link to it and let us see judge for ourselves.

[cherrycapital]

Cat, I'd find this a little more convincing if it weren't for your rather snotty way of speaking about the defendant. So far your predictions have not been coming to pass, we will all see what the future holds. What I can tell you from having *personally* been involved in publicizing this story since February of 2001, is that the facts and the law as written are ALL on Mrs. Henson's side. If what you want to tell us is that the system is too corrupt to work for her, then fine, that is your opinion. But if what you want is to suggest she is getting what she deserves, I think most Freepers will tell you to get bent. At least I will.

[Catspaw]

Maybe we can get the Grant's Pass crowd and Edgar Steele to give this lady some advice......*snort*

See my post #92.  They're recommending that Pamela Gaston's Sui Juris is a MUST HAVE!

[cherrycapital]

A red butt is not child abuse, period. Child abuse means broken bones, cigarette burns, black eyes, etc. Child abuse is also ripping a child out of a good home because you have a different opinion on spanking.