Posted on 07/19/2002 10:35:43 AM PDT by cherrycapital
10,000,000,000,000 > 6,000, in case you didn't know...
You're here, aren't you?
Now if that is your idea of a "search for the facts",
No, I'd say OPH has enough facts and has formed an opinion about the Gastons and the Grants Pass crowd. He was responding to an item regarding that bunch not the Hensons. BTW, I agree with OPH.
There IS the Spees notes, or "confession" as the Gastons put it. It is still on their site, so obviously Spees doesn't disagree with what is there.
CONFESSION OF PORNOGRAPHER HAZEL SPEES
Marion County Jury Finds State Conspired Against Father
The Gastons have, however, been found guilty of defaming Ms. Hazel Spees and owe her $500k and change in the judgment rendered against them.
Which stemmed from the fact they weren't allowed to present evidence at the "trial". Even though Spees DID admit to filming their daughter nude, she claimed it was at the direction of her supervisor.
As if anybody here had any actual say in the matter.
With enough NATIONAL attention, the PUBLIC WOULD have a say in the matter.
This is the same guy who says others are vilifying good families?
Your primary goal here seems to be smear and attack every parent who has been wronged by out of control child services agencies. And yes, YOU especially are villifying families. You probably were cheering Lou Houriachi and company when they torched Waco, and when they blew Vickie Weaver's face off..
According to Gastons, Melissa was adopted in 1999 and they have no idea where she is. Praise be.
Can you provide a link to that? I've seen it written that a year ago Melissa had stayed in no less than SEVENTEEN foster homes. Unlike you, I'll back up my words with a link to that news item..
And again, this is a case where there are NO charges against the parents concerning abuse or neglect. NONE, ZIP, NADA!
Do you advocate ripping kids away from their families for the demented pleasure of state bureaucrats? Is that your agenda?
And perhaps the Gastons and Hensons can sue YOU. And perhaps you could be charged with a federal count of conspiracy for aiding and abetting in child pornography and molestation.
That is the ENTIRE point. They don't, and there ISN'T any reason for them not to.
The Gastons have been told that Melissa has already been adopted out, before parental rights were terminated. All actions of the court are void, and will be dealt with in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, where the rest of the Gastons cases are now pending.
Parental rights, what little he may have had left, were terminated on September 30, 1999.
Will Gaston doesn't seem to have a child fitting the description that he has publicized. His name was removed from Melissa's birth certificate soon after the DNA results were in.
Gastons don't address this directly. They only state that the DNA tests were done just prior to the parental rights termination trial. On the day of the trial Gastons were presented evidence that they claim they did not have time to prepare for. On that same day the court terminated any biological rights that Gaston may have had. Melissa was already a ward of the court and had been since 1991. For the apx. one year that Melissa lived with Gaston he still had no legal custody of her, he had a service agreement with social services to maintain the child.
Gaston was AWOL the first 4-5 years of Meliss'a life and only had a biological claim to the child because the diagnosed schizophrenic mother put his name on the birth certificate. Melissa's birth certificate was corrected soon after the termination hearing. If you go back over the Gaston statements you will not find any claim made by him that Melissa is his biological daughter.
It's not libel if it's TRUE Einstein.
BTW, as you promote Gaston's techniques--you know, how to lose your childen and go to prison in three easy steps--have they paid any of the half a mil they owe to Spees for her successful defamation judgment against them? And do you know how much interest has accrued on that judgment?
Very interesting. Not being the biological parent of the child puts a very interesting twist on the case. If the parents weren't married, there isn't even marital presumption. Once it was established that he was not the biological father, exactly what parental rights did he have to terminate?
This, of course, would be the dream of those who have been named as the father of a child, get divorced & are paying child suport, then find out later that they aren't the biological father and are STILL stuck paying child support. The irony.
I'd love it if they sued me. By the time I was done with them, they'd think that CPS was was a widdle fuzzy wuzzy teddy bear.
And if you think that folks that walk in to a courtroom to arrest a judge are going to get anywhere with the US Attorney's office in bringing criminal charges against me, my only comment is BWHAHAHAHAHA! But please try it. Oh, you do mean in a REAL court, don't you, not one of those fakey common law courts, right?
Since his name was on the birth certificate there was some "cloud of fatherhood", if you will. Judge had to make a ruling to have it removed, I presume. A reverse paternity action if I ever saw one, if that's the way it happened.
Only labor compares with the pain of engorgement. It makes me want to faint just thinking about the agony this woman is in.
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