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Organ Pipe Smuggling Problem Only Getting Worse
Outside Magazine ^
| July 18, 2002
| Megan Miller
Posted on 07/19/2002 8:00:11 AM PDT by SJackson
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A favorite destination in years past. Now a part of America essentially "out of bounds".
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:00:11 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
I've seen these cacti show up at various farmers' markets in a couple of states. They are also seen in many Phoenix yards, symbols of greed.
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:03:20 AM PDT
by
ofMagog
To: *Wod_list
More casualties in the War On (some) Drugs: organ pipe cacti. How much collateral damage is too much? Decriminalization would end this destruction.
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:11:39 AM PDT
by
coloradan
To: coloradan; ofMagog
I wasn't thinking of the cactus. I've backpacked there a few times, wouldn't consider it now. I know a few colleges who would include it on student trips, but having found drug stashes on multiple occasions, won't run the risk of going there anymore. It's become a monument to our porous borders rather than the cacti.
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:19:25 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
In many cases, seriously dehydrated hikers destroy cactuses to get to their stored water supplies. Smuggle dope, smuggle illegals, thats bad, yadda yadda, but chop up a cactus to get a drink in the desert, and you are going to jail.
We have rangers with night vision, body armor, and M16's to see that you get what's coming to you.
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:27:18 AM PDT
by
marron
To: SJackson
Smuggling there would prevent me from visiting again, especially camping in the area.
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:27:22 AM PDT
by
ofMagog
To: SJackson
I have heard that Organ Pipe is one of those UN International Peace Parks. So much for peace there.
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:50:58 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
To: SJackson
So, yet another casualty in the War On (some) Drugs is secure borders. There are undoubtedly many more.
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posted on
07/19/2002 8:57:47 AM PDT
by
coloradan
To: SJackson
Either legalize pot or start protecting our borders from this scum by using our military.
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posted on
07/19/2002 9:07:51 AM PDT
by
billyhill
To: billyhill
Yup. Shoot to Kill.
We're just about there....
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posted on
07/19/2002 9:19:19 AM PDT
by
HiJinx
To: SJackson
Who would want to smuggle organ pipes?
To: Tony in Hawaii
Organ smokers? (Don't go there...)
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posted on
07/19/2002 9:33:35 AM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: Tony in Hawaii
Who would want to smuggle organ pipes?LOL. That's also what I thought when I read the headline. I thought it was a story about out-of-control church organists or something.
Cordially,
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posted on
07/19/2002 9:49:19 AM PDT
by
Diamond
To: marron
Both strategies pose dangers to smugglers, rangers, park visitors, and perhaps most of all, to the park's fragile desert ecosystem. I agree with you -- it sounds like this article is more concerned about cactus than people.
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posted on
07/19/2002 9:55:02 AM PDT
by
nepdap
To: ofMagog
"They are also seen in many Phoenix yards, symbols of greed." Well, that settles it for me: I'm buying one for my front yard.
To: SJackson
The article doesn't explain why the smugglers are carrying marijuana instead of cocaine. Cocaine has a higher value-per-pound rate than MJ, so you'd think that smuggling coke would make more sense financially.
But this article is more proof that MJ should be legalized to remove the profit motive.
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posted on
07/19/2002 10:12:33 AM PDT
by
etcetera
To: etcetera
The article doesn't explain why the smugglers are carrying marijuana instead of cocaine. Cocaine has a higher value-per-pound rate than MJ, so you'd think that smuggling coke would make more sense financially. The trip leaders that I've spoken to who no longer go there have observed cached baloons of what appeared to be cocaine. As another poster mentions, the article does seem more concerned about the cacti than people. When they mention But because it shares 30 miles of backcountry border with Mexico fenced only with easy-to-cut barbed wire they fail to mention that we're talking a couple of single strands of wire that wouldn't keep a cow in or out (unless it's been upgraded in the last 8-10 years) and that a Mexican highway paralells the border of the park on the other side.
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posted on
07/19/2002 10:21:46 AM PDT
by
SJackson
To: SJackson
Both strategies pose dangers to smugglers, rangers, park visitors, and perhaps most of all, to the park's fragile desert ecosystem.Oh, the lovely fragile desert. The cursed, rainless place where only the hideous and freakishly mutated survive. WTF is this, an episode of "Captain Planet"?
To: Wolfie
Organ smokers? (Don't go there...) Only if they were from Poland. Then they'd be pole ...
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posted on
07/19/2002 12:02:57 PM PDT
by
strela
To: Diamond
I thought it was a story about out-of-control church organists or something. J.S. Bach -The Great Organ Works.
And he has 16 children as proof.
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posted on
07/19/2002 12:09:30 PM PDT
by
Wm Bach
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