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Bush Signed Stock 'Lockup' Letter
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Posted on 07/15/2002 7:07:00 PM PDT by RCW2001

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To: Torie
Thanks but I'm afraid you are giving way too much credit in my direction. I answer only with stuff I find with the Google, that devilish little searcher....
41 posted on 07/15/2002 8:05:06 PM PDT by deport
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To: RCW2001
I found this article regarding this whole mess.

If the facts are as the article states, it could get very ugly.

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,755132,00.html
42 posted on 07/15/2002 8:05:24 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Lord_Baltar
Ya, Bush sold at the market price. Shocking and scandalous.
43 posted on 07/15/2002 8:09:10 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Well Torie;

I think the most telling paragraph of the article, one point I hadn't seen brought was this

"Although the SEC elected not to prosecute, an internal memo advised that the halt of the investigation 'must in no way be construed as indicating that the party has been exonerated or that no action may ultimately result'."

In fact, around here, I've heard "he was completely exonerated". Well, which is it, was he, or wasn't he?

44 posted on 07/15/2002 8:13:02 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: RCW2001
As a lawyer, I can tell you that the most helpful device I have ever used in court (at least this is what jurors tell me) is a nice timeline that spells the facts out in chronological sequence.

I wonder if politicians ever think about doing these things to help the sheeple understand complicated issues and the sequence of significant events over time.

45 posted on 07/15/2002 8:14:15 PM PDT by PackerBoy
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To: zook
Fight like hell and remind everyone about Lieberman's ongoing coverup.

Time to sic the Justice Dept on Lieberman and McAuliffe.

46 posted on 07/15/2002 8:14:56 PM PDT by copycat
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To: Lord_Baltar
more left wing bs
47 posted on 07/15/2002 8:17:22 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Lord_Baltar
There remains 'one great mystery', says Royce. 'Who was the "institutional client" who bought Bush's shares? Who the hell bought such a large block of crumby stock?' The broker of the deal, Ralph Smith, refuses to say. 'Someone out there was sure looking after George W,' says Royce.
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The Dims will hammer GWBush on the above. Thanks for the link. My wild guess would be it's someone who was also in on (or knew folks in on) the Texas Ranger's deal.
48 posted on 07/15/2002 8:18:13 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
The only way GW can save his reputation from being dragged through the Democrat gutter is to act decisively. It's a war, has been since the election was almost stolen by the Dems, and the only thing that will make them stop lying is POWER.

See my previous post, you are absolutely right.

I will be reading your posts with more interest in the future.

49 posted on 07/15/2002 8:18:29 PM PDT by copycat
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To: TLBSHOW
Wow TBL, that sounds strangely like the Clintoon defenders...

Hell, I can almost here the sound of whining and sniveling "It's a vast right wing conspirisy"...

50 posted on 07/15/2002 8:19:00 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Lord_Baltar
and you sound like a du rat!
51 posted on 07/15/2002 8:20:22 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Lord_Baltar
I didn't noticed that the SEC took action later, but maybe I and everyone else missed it.
52 posted on 07/15/2002 8:22:01 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Lord_Baltar
The Observer ought to be sued for that twisting of the facts. We all know what this little game is about, don't we? This is about the war on terror and it's about Bush not dealing with Arafat. It's also about the fact that President Bush WILL topple Saddam.

All the money in the Arab world is not going to stop him.

53 posted on 07/15/2002 8:22:45 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Lord_Baltar
"Although the SEC elected not to prosecute, an internal memo advised that the halt of the investigation 'must in no way be construed as indicating that the party has been exonerated or that no action may ultimately result'."

This is a standard blurb which is added to all SEC findings which gives them leeway to change course should new information comes out. Read this as...

"We didn't find anything, so we are halting the investigation, but we reserve the right to start back up if the situation warrants."

54 posted on 07/15/2002 8:24:08 PM PDT by copycat
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To: TLBSHOW
Isn't that nice TBL, you've even taken to deflecting and spinning like the Clintonistas. You must be so proud of yourself.
55 posted on 07/15/2002 8:25:55 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: RCW2001
Otherwise, its going to be...drip, drip, drip!

So? Dripping it out until everybody was sick of the topic is a standard tactic -- Clowntoon was the master of it, but it can work for just about anybody.

56 posted on 07/15/2002 8:26:10 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Lord_Baltar

Well lots of writers have opinions..... so here's another one from Bryon York who has written on this event since back in the 2000 primary......

THREE QUESTIONS
In the 1980s, Bush ran an energy company called Spectrum 7. By 1986, with the oil market in a deep slump, the firm was in serious financial trouble. That year, another company, Harken Energy, which specialized in buying distressed oil properties, purchased Spectrum 7. Harken's management wanted Bush on its team — his father was then vice-president, and he had extensive connections, as well as knowledge of the oil and gas business. But Harken's officers did not offer Bush an executive role, instead giving him a seat on the board, a chunk of stock worth at least $500,000 at the time, and a consulting contract.

It was not a full-time job, and in 1987 and 1988 Bush devoted much of his energy to his father's presidential campaign. The next year, Bush got involved with a group of investors who were trying to buy the Texas Rangers baseball team. When the sale went through in March 1989, Bush borrowed $600,000 to purchase his stake in the team. At that time, his biggest single asset was his Harken stock, and he decided to sell the stock to pay off the baseball loan.

On June 22, 1990, Bush sold 212,140 shares of Harken at $4 a share, for a total sale of $848,560. Nearly two months later, on August 20, Harken announced a much larger than expected loss for the quarter that ended on June 30. In the months that followed, Harken's stock price drifted downward, hitting $1.25 per share by the end of 1990. When word of Bush's sale became public, Democrats charged that he had used inside information — he also served on the Harken board's audit committee — to sell the stock while he could still make a lot of money.

Bush denied any wrongdoing, but the allegations led to an SEC investigation. Commission experts looked into three questions: One, did Bush know in advance that Harken was going to post an abnormally large loss in August, 1990? Two, did Bush sell the stock with the intent of getting out while the getting was good? And three, did Harken's loss announcement lead to a stock downturn that hurt ordinary investors who had no inside knowledge of the company's workings?

According to several internal SEC memos written in 1991 and 1992 — they are available on the website of the public-interest group the Center for Public Integrity — investigators examined thousands of pages of documents given to them by Bush and Harken, interviewed several witnesses, and met with lawyers for Bush and the company (Bush waived attorney-client privilege to allow the SEC to interview the lawyers). On the first question, whether Bush knew in advance about the losses, the SEC investigators found that "the evidence establishes that Bush was not aware of the majority of the items that comprised the loss Harken announced on August 20." Most of that loss, according to the SEC, resulted from write-downs and expenses that occurred after Bush sold his stock — events that he did not know were coming. In addition, the investigators found that Bush played a "relatively limited role in Harken management." In that role, he usually did not receive what were called the Weekly Flash Reports on the company's financial condition; those reports were given only to the board of directors' executive committee. The result, according to an SEC investigative memo, was that Bush was not particularly up to date on the company's finances:

The staff's investigation indicates that, at most, Bush was aware that Harken was forecasted to lose approximately $4.2 million in the second quarter. [The actual loss eventually turned out to be more than five times that] Harken's financial reporting was on about a 45-day delay, so that in mid-June the numbers reflecting Harken's actual results in April would be available. Consequently, by June 22 (the date when Bush sold) no actual revenue or loss information was available for the second two months of the quarter ended June 30. Bush, however, did see the Weekly Flash Report for the week ended May 31, 1990, which reflected a projected net loss for April of $1,875,00, a loss for May of $2,029,000, and a loss for June of $327,000 (for a total of $4,231,000)....Flash reports for the first two weeks of June, which would have been in existence prior to June 22, were only circulated to the members of the Harken executive committee (of which Bush was not a member).

On the second question, whether Bush sold the stock deliberately to avoid losing money before bad news was made public, the SEC found that Bush made the sale after being contacted by a stockbroker who had an institutional client who wanted to buy a large block of Harken stock. When Bush decided to sell, he checked with Harken's in-house counsel, as well as the company's chairman, plus another director, and, finally, the company's outside counsel, to see whether there were any reasons the sale could not go through. No one raised any objections. "In light of the facts uncovered, it would be difficult to establish that, even assuming Bush possessed material nonpublic information, he acted with scienter or intent to defraud," the SEC concluded.

On the third question, whether the news of Harken's unexpectedly large loss hurt the company's investors, the SEC examined Harken's share price just before and just after news of the loss was made public. The announcement came at 9:34 A.M. on August 20, 1990. When the market opened that morning, according to the SEC, Harken's stock was selling at $3 per share. It stayed at that level until after noon, when it began a slow slide to $2.375 per share. The next day, however, it rebounded to $3 per share. If the loss announcement had been a bombshell, SEC investigators reasoned, the stock would most likely have fallen immediately and stayed down. "The conclusion of the Office of Economic Analysis is that, because the price of Harken did not immediately react to the earnings announcement and there is no news that explains Harken's return to its pre-announcement price of $3 on August 21, 1990, the earnings announcement did not provide investors with new material information," the SEC said. Furthermore, even though Harken stock moved down for the rest of 1990, it recovered its value — and more — the next year, when it hit $8 a share.


57 posted on 07/15/2002 8:29:03 PM PDT by deport
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To: Lord_Baltar
""Although the SEC elected not to prosecute, an internal memo advised that the halt of the investigation 'must in no way be construed as indicating that the party has been exonerated or that no action may ultimately result'."

That sentence is called boilerplate, it's a standard disclaimer the SEC attaches to most files, where they have not taken any action-sort of a SEC CYA. The most important fact is that no action was taken.
58 posted on 07/15/2002 8:32:52 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Lord_Baltar
Reading the Observer is a bad reflection on your character.
59 posted on 07/15/2002 8:35:11 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: RCW2001
What do you expect from a few hundred newly energized full-time well-paid members of the DNC, who got a great paid vacation from 1992-2000? ;-)
60 posted on 07/15/2002 8:37:46 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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