We've had this thing for at least six years.
More information, please.
Posted on 07/15/2002 3:24:20 PM PDT by sam_paine
Sorry about the re-post. The title change mixed me up.
"Many have underestimated the americans in the past."
Indeed.
We have one item that is far beyond anything found in the aforementioned list. I don't know it's name, or the full extent of its capabilities, but I do know what I've seen it do with my own eyes. It can fly silently, at near-hovering speeds. By near-hovering speeds, I am talking about 1mph or slower, and by silently, I mean it is absolutely silent. It's about the size of a stealth fighter, perhaps a bit smaller, and has a rounded heart-shaped form factor, with a small cabin on top, and a notch in the rear, with no vertical control surfaces. It can also accelerate at a good clip, again, in absolute silence.
We've had this thing for at least six years.
EXACTLY. "If it is not Chinese, then how is it in China?"
We've had this thing for at least six years.
More information, please.
I had the opportunity a few years ago to ask a fairly high-ranking Naval non-commissioned boomer sub officer (one of the hightest in the country, I will not say "how high" to protect his anonymity). He was a friend-of-a-friend and we were at a restaurant. He had an immediate change in demeanor from "life of the party" type guy to very uncomfortable as he vociferously protested that he knew nothing about it. A very bad Sgt. Schultz act, but no one was laughing. (The friend asked him about it later, because he acted so strange when I asked, and she said the same thing happened again -- he got all weird and insisted he knew nothing about it.)
Tell me about it... and the Chinese companies we deal with (as sources for grey market components) are the worst in the industry. They have become notorious for selling bum parts and for falling through on deals. The problem is, that over the last two years they have gone from being marginal players to having a significant share of the market.
I'm sick of this "Billion Man Market" baloney. It's more like the Billion Man Cheap Labor Market. It's disgraceful how our corporations are falling all over themselves exporting our production lines and our high technology to that ugly regime.
The reason i believe you is that when we (the US) were working on the Have Blue project that spawned the stealth fighter many people in the surrounding areas saw some of the night flights. Same thing happened when the actual prototypes had been made (that led to the F-117A). Same thing happened when the B-2 Spirit was in its fina;l testing phases.
All these sightings were obviously played down, and the observers ridiculed as 'alien abductee freaks' since most people thought they were looney-bins and thought they had 'seen' an UFO (and if you think of it both the B-2 and the F-117 would have looked very much like UFOs to someone seeing them fly overhead in let's say 1987).
Hence i will accept your post as true since it is almost 100% that the USAF through some 'skunkworks' is working on some secret stealth (or similar) technology.
Probably what you saw was some 'black' military project that will be probably unveiled to the public 9 years from now. After all there were people who had seen the B-2Spirit in prototype form (as well as its competitor, which by the way was not a total flying wing but had some vertical control surfaces ...but that was cancelled in favor of the B-2 just as the F-23 Blackwidow was cancelled in favor of the more maneuvrable F-22 Raptor). So chances are you saw something that will be secret for at least half a decade (if it ever passes all its tests and is accepted).
Who knows, it may be the Aurora project all these theorists keep on asserting exists (lol, although maybe i should not laugh because many laughed at reports of a 'huge black plane that looks like a bat straight out of hell.' Today we call it the B-2).
I am interested however in where you saw this, and how come you were allowed to get close enough to distinguish its various varied features. If what you saw was indeed a black book project i wonder how come you managed to get close enough to observe it with such vivid detail?
Once the money goes to China, it stays in China, and we have NO access to it. Firstly, because most of the money is kept by the government.
Our "exports" to China are purchased with our own money. It is not really an "export"...
China is nothing more than a dot.com get rich quick ponzi scheme for only a select few corporations. $1 an hour labor is not all that it is cracked up to be. The cost overall is far more than the benefit.
Taking all our manufacturing out of China will be THE way to get our money's worth in ways of creating a sound global economy.
Investing in China is a serious step backwards for the global economy.
And how exactly do you propose to do this? US firms are in China because American consumers demand the lowest prices. You'd really have to convince American consumers to start paying full price for everything, which I doubt they'll do.
Instead of 7% margins, they are 8%. End pricing is not influenced hardly at all.
That extra 1% tends far more often to pay groups of execs an extra 25,000 per year. It is not passed on to consumers.
they are selling out the big picture for a quick buck for a select few, of a select portion of the economy.
Why go through the hassle of the move?
They don't push prices down, they hold them up, and push them up, while driving down costs...
These perceptions problems are accompanied, in our view, by the steadfast REFUSAL of the Chinese leadership to engage us constructively on the matter of building effective bilateral confidence building institutions and procedures.
Is it just me, or is the juxtaposition of these two thoughts indicative of the Chinese maneuvering to destroy us, not co-exist with us?
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