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Is the USA becoming the new Russia ?

Posted on 07/14/2002 12:30:23 PM PDT by stalin

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To: stalin
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When Putin took over it was just another set of criminals ( and many of the same ) taking power. Just like in the US. There is another way we are similar.

Is rediculous....where is the growth and reform coming from? If we followed your theory then why is the economy growing so fast? Why is there no massive slow down and collapse? Why has the average salary gone up by over 40%?

Here read and learn about Putin: Russian Economics 101

Investment up 18%

Economy Tuning up in Russia

121 posted on 07/21/2002 3:50:30 AM PDT by Stavka2
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I didn't say that the Russian economy wasn't growing or that he'd made some reforms that helped a lot. There is no where left for the economy to go but up. If it got any worse people would start to starve and there would be another revolution. Even the Russians won't put up with not being able to eat.

The flat tax is one of the biggest reforms. We need to fallow Russia at this. It doen't hurt the criminals so he can get away with it there. Here it would hurt the criminals in the US so we don't get a flat tax.

The American economy is still growing too even though we've suffered trillions in loses. The American people vote economy more than the Russians. That's one of the primary reasons we have a better economy. The voters don't put up with a terrible economy. They throw the crooks out of office when the economy is bad.

The Russians just throw up their hands in disgust and keep voting in the same crinimanls because they feel much more powerless than the American voters. They aren't much less powerful if they would choose to exersize that power but they are so pesimistic that they feel nothing will change however they vote. They just want out. That will change too and the Russian economy will start to do better eventually.

Truthfully we don't know how much the Russian economy has grown - if at all. The government tells the people what they want to hear and there is no acountability to the figures. The government can make the figures up completely in Russia unlike the America government. The American government can fudge a great deal but it gets caught regularly and can't get away with as much.

In Moscow wages have probably gone up slightly but not in Russia in general and that is according to the Russian government so we can't really know that either. There is way too much unemployment for wages to go up much. In the rest of the country people who are lucky enouph to have jobs are still living on $30 a month and pensioners are living on less than $15 a month.

Arrording to the Moscow government average wagees in Moscow are $200 a month but that doesn't include the vast majority of the throngs of workers working off of the books because they don't have enouph money to bride the right officials to get the proper paperwork to work in Moscow legaly. They can't even get the very poor health care available in Russia for free if they are living in the right place.

122 posted on 07/21/2002 9:41:37 AM PDT by stalin
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did they revoke your posting privlages ?
123 posted on 07/24/2002 5:13:08 PM PDT by stalin
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