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NATION: IS THE CONSTITUTION SUSPENDED?
THE NEW AMERICAN ^ | February 5, 1996 | Thomas A. Burzynski

Posted on 07/14/2002 11:35:36 AM PDT by dixie sass

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21 posted on 07/15/2002 5:07:50 AM PDT by Le-Roy
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To: dixie sass
Dr. Schroder's efforts to publicize the issue have been boosted by interviews in the Spotlight and Anti-Shyster publications
...what say you, fellow conservatives?

OK, even though I refuse to wear a label, but judging from the sense I get early on in the article, my only comment is: consider the source.
It's way too early to be breaking out the aluminum foil.

22 posted on 07/15/2002 5:32:13 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: dixie sass
The author erects a straw man and knocks it down. The fact is it does not matter if the Constitution has been "officially suspended".

Joe Sobran summed it up well:

So to most Americans, even those who feel oppressed by what they call big government, it must sound strange to hear it said, in the past tense, that tyranny “came” to America. After all, we have a constitution, don’t we? We’ve abolished slavery and segregation. We won two world wars and the Cold War. We still congratulate ourselves before every ballgame on being the Land of the Free. And we aren’t ruled by some fanatic with a funny mustache who likes big parades with thousands of soldiers goose-stepping past huge pictures of himself.

For all that, we no longer fully have what our ancestors, who framed and ratified our Constitution, thought of as freedom — a careful division of power that prevents power from becoming concentrated and unlimited. The word they usually used for concentrated power was consolidated — a rough synonym for fascist. And the words they used for any excessive powers claimed or exercised by the state were usurped and tyrannical. They would consider the modern “liberal” state tyrannical in principle; they would see in it not the opposite of the fascist, communist, and socialist states, but their sister.

If Washington and Jefferson, Madison, and Hamilton could come back, the first thing they’d notice would be that the federal government now routinely assumes thousands of powers never assigned to it — powers never granted, never delegated, never enumerated. These were the words they used, and it’s a good idea for us to learn their language. They would say that we no longer live under the Constitution they wrote. And the Americans of a much later era — the period from Cleveland to Coolidge, for example — would say we no longer live even under the Constitution they inherited and amended.

I call the present system “Post–Constitutional America.” As I sometimes put it, the U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government.

What’s worse is that our constitutional illiteracy cuts us off from our own national heritage. And so our politics degenerates into increasingly bitter and unprincipled quarrels about who is going to bear the burdens of war and welfare.

Regards

J.R.

23 posted on 07/15/2002 5:57:37 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: dixie sass
The good news is that the Constitution is supreme.

The bad news is that, our 'leaders' don't think so.

The good news is that we outnumber them 400 to 1.

24 posted on 07/15/2002 7:34:42 AM PDT by citizenx7
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To: citizenx7
But don't we have to convince them that it is? If we outnumber them 400 to one, why are we allowing the things to happen that are happening.

It seems that lately all law is coming down by executive order or by the Supreme Court. This isn't what the Constitution says.
25 posted on 07/15/2002 3:33:27 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
Of course the population must be convinced, fortunately that process is well advanced. Each of us must do all we can to see that we do our part. It doesn't take anywhere near 100% to bring sucess. Even during the Revolutionary War only a very small percentage of the citizen's fought for Independence.

Of course, we are not fighting with weapons, but with words and ideas. So far these people have been winning because they have not been engaged. They have used clever legal phrases to hide their real intent, which is a socialist/fascist state, as one part of a world wide system. We must stand up and bring those who would commit Contempt of Constitution to true justice.

26 posted on 07/15/2002 9:27:09 PM PDT by citizenx7
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To: Uncle Bill
I have followed the threads to other threads to other threads and my head hurts. So many more pieces of the puzzles, I don't think anything fits anywhere...
27 posted on 07/15/2002 11:01:36 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: one_particular_harbour
Perhaps shrillness is the only way that they can get people to listen anymore over the noise of the tv's, dvd's and nonsense played out over the radio.

I am getting lost in all of this. I am trying to understand the ninth amendment and draw up a presentation for next Monday night on Paltalk Patriot's. I thought I had come to an understanding, but then I come across articles like these two that I have posted and I wonder what the %%ll is going on with the Bill of Rights. AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

Maybe I should just stop trying to think for a while.
28 posted on 07/15/2002 11:06:23 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
The truth will set you free,but really pee you off in the process.
29 posted on 07/15/2002 11:09:07 PM PDT by Crazymonarch
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To: Crazymonarch
Point taken and understood. Sometimes, it is getting at the truth that hurts.
30 posted on 07/15/2002 11:12:57 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
The wizard of oz seems to figure prominately in Religion,finance,the legal system,taxation,international law,politics and many other fields of human endeavour.
31 posted on 07/15/2002 11:22:32 PM PDT by Crazymonarch
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To: NMC EXP; dixie sass
"If Washington and Jefferson, Madison, and Hamilton could come back, the first thing they’d notice would be that the federal government now routinely assumes thousands of powers never assigned to it — powers never granted, never delegated, never enumerated."

EXACTLY!! It's amazing how many folks have a problem gettin' their heads around that simple statement of fact...the Federal Guv'ment has become unaccountable to the Constitution each temporarily-elected resident swears an Oath to Protect.

Excellent post, mi amigo...MUD

32 posted on 07/16/2002 5:06:54 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
I call the present system “Post–Constitutional America.” As I sometimes put it, the U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government.
-- Joe Sobran


That says it all.

Take care,

J.R.
33 posted on 07/16/2002 5:22:25 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: dixie sass
What America needs are congressional declarations that expose as nullities all illegally usurped powers.

I wish we had that kind of congress. Who among them, other than Ron Paul, would willingly agree to nullify those usurped powers. It will be difficult to crush the empire and restore the republic.

34 posted on 07/16/2002 5:35:19 AM PDT by faintpraise
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To: faintpraise; dixie sass
"What America needs are congressional declarations that expose as nullities all illegally usurped powers."

"I wish we had that kind of congress."

Wouldn't that be something?! Or, AT LEAST, how about a 20-person bicameral ConstitutionCaucus that agitates for legislation that actually decreases the size and scope of the Federal Leviathan?! Yep...that would be something!!

FReegards...MUD

35 posted on 07/16/2002 6:28:40 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
"...In addition, the people must learn to resist the distractions of the rumor mill and, instead, generate constant and informed vigilance lest their freedoms disappear at the hands of those who always claim that they mean to rule well, but who most of all mean always to rule."

It still comes back to this...

36 posted on 07/16/2002 11:49:39 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: Mudboy Slim
Though most of us have never taken the Oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Consitution", isn't it a "understood" fact that as American citizens, it is our responsibility?

I've taken an Oath that requires that for both my state and the federal constitution four times. Each time was when I worked at the polls. Twice I administered the Oath. After the first time, no one came up to me and said that my responsilibity to the Constitution and this country and it's citizenry was over because the polls were closed. I swore the Oath once and reaffirmed it three times.
37 posted on 07/16/2002 11:57:51 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass; sultan88
Without a doubt, Americans get the Representation they Want and Deserve!! It's OUR fault that Bill Clinton was elected, then re-elected, despite ample evidence of his criminality and political chicanery...I think the Constitutional Caucus already exists in the House, but honest, patriotic folks need to force them to declare themselves as Defenders of the Constitution!!

Then, prove it with Legislation!!

FReegards...MUD

38 posted on 07/16/2002 11:57:54 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
Aren't we doing that at the grassroots level, Mud. I mean places like here, the Chapters and various other organizations. If our voices and actions are being heard, what do we do...
39 posted on 07/16/2002 12:02:00 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: Mudboy Slim
"If our voices and actions are being heard, what do we do..."

That should read = If our voices and action aren't being heard, what do we do...

Sorry, didn't catch it before hitting the button.


40 posted on 07/16/2002 12:05:13 PM PDT by dixie sass
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