University of California System Raises Number of Blacks and Hispanics Admitted

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL | July 12, 2002 | DANIEL GOLDEN

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Where, do you think, the national and state GOP are on this issue? What do the platforms say, or what was promised in the latest campaigns? What public statements have come from the White House, the Simon Campaign, the RNC, or other political organs of the party?

The preferences employed here violate the latter and spirit of the CA state constituion after the passage of Prop 209, the California Civil Rights Initiative.

Will anyone in the GOP say so?

If not, why not?

Cheers,

Richard F.

[pabianice]

The GOP are cowards and will lose both houses of Congress this fall. Perhaps that will shake them up a bit.

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[CatoRenasci]

Having served in the UC-wide academic senate in the early '70s during the debates over affirmative action, this makes me want to cry. We had a proposal to use a form of affirmative action that would have identified the bright minority kids and used the junior college system to bring them up to university standards (then pretty high), but it was rejected in favor of the system that evolved with unqualified minority students admitted -- giving rise to the minority studies departments to keep them from flunking out.

With Prop 209, it looked like we'd get back to colorblind admissions, but this new plan is a bad joke. When the disadvantaged Korean kid with a 1500 SAT is rejected for some Hispanic with an 1110 I want to puke. The poor Koreans are hardworking, treated like the "niggers" of Asia by other Asians and can't get a break here. Disgusting.

Giving preference points to kids from underperforming high schools is perhaps the stupidest thing I've seen: the ONLY possible effect is to see more unprepared students at the Big U, which will inevitably lead to lower standards -- no way the lefty faculty will flunk the black and hispanic kids who haven't a clue what's going on in the classroom.

[Conservative Chicagoan]

If the GOP doesn't oppose affirmative action, it will give support to traitors like Buchanan.

[ArmoredCav]

Under the new criteria, Hispanics and blacks admitted to the University of California for next fall rose to 18.5% of the total

I hope the law also makes the 18.5% of the professors/faculty officers/ university professors/ trustees black or hispanic too! I also hope that the university janitorial staffs are regulated in such fashion so that 81.5% of them are white/Asian!

[applemac_g4]

[quote]
The Pacific Legal Foundation in
Sacramentois expected to file public-
recordsrequests this month on behalf
oftwo students rejected by the
Berkeley,Los Angeles and San Diego
campuses.It wants to determine
whetherthey were casualties of race-
basedpreferences.
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Of course they are. Liberal educrats are most comfortable with a dictatorship they control, and can't abide the thought of being told what to do be something so unsophisticated as the democratic process.

The qualified white and asian kids who have been shut out of such colleges by their racist policies shouldn't feel too bad.

Most of these institutions are more concerned with mass-producing democratic party members than with providing a quality education. Their reputations rest on two century old pedigrees and are undeserved by today's standards.

In the end, holding a degree from one institution or another has next to no effect on successfully pursuing a chosen career.

Get a cost effective bachelor's degree from a cost effective institution in a part of the country you like. Study hard, get a 4.0, ace your LSAT, GMAT, or MCAT...you'll get where you want to go.

[lepton]

Even normed, a 1500 is quite impressive.

[CatoRenasci]

No kidding, espeically when you take away the 100 points added in the 95 norming: the Korean kid still has a 1400, respectable in anyone's book and the Hispanic kid has a 1000, smack dab in the average middle.

In the old days of the 1960s, if you had above 1300 on the SAT (1400 now) you were automatically accepted at UC even if your high school grades didn't make the top 12-1/2% cut off (which could easily happen at competitive academic high schools like Lowell in San Francisco where you needed a 135 IQ just to get in back then.

[lelio]

to make the student body as reflective as possible of the state's population
If I want to see what's reflective of the state's population I'll go out for a walk. If I want an education I'll go to the school.

[MonroeDNA]

As a hiring manager for a medical device manufacturing company (start-up; only the best survive), I can say that resumes listing a Cali school are an automatic flag.

Idiot alert! Don't hire!!!!

Let the 6th world's largest GNP sink or swim on its own. it is interesting to watch it slowly implode, like the soviet union did.

[RussellStevens]

When applying to colleges this year I decided to apply to three UC schools although I planned on not going to them. I applied to UC Berkley, UCLA, and UC Irvine, but only got into Irvine.

Before I continue let me state that I am Caucasian, a disadvantage for applications. I had a 1320 SAT I score, a 2000 combined SAT II (can't remember exact division), 3.5 GPA, all AP and honors courses, and tons of activities ranging from Volleyball (captain) to Boy Scouts (eagle). I also went to an "inner-city" high school in Los Angeles, with very high "minority" population (10% white in school, in a 98% white community). I also lived in Thailand for six months my freshman year, I used this as a "hardship" in my essay.

Well in April acceptances came in and I find out I only got into Irvine. How is this possible when I know people with 900 SAT I and 3.0 GPA who get in? Well its a PC and racist program, they want to be "fair" but in fact end up cheating deserving scholars out of a affordable good (if you could call it that) education.

I think the UC system is going down the tubes, what used to be the premier public university system is lowering their standards in the name of diversity. This will really hurt the system and I am glad I am not going to have to deal with it. Also I will have fun at a very republican school, BYU.

[Reeses]

I had a 1320 SAT I score

They just can't get certain minority SAT scores up no matter what they do so they are adding an essay to the SAT. Unless you have a minority sob story, you probably won't score 1320 on the new test. High schools need to add creative writing classes, teach how to write tear-jerkers, how to play the victim role and be gratefully saved by socialism.

[RussellStevens]

(First time poster, long time reader. I don't know if there is an edit but I want to add something.)

As a new adult (as of 6/29) I can't wait to vote these monkeys (Davis) that support this junk out of office.

One more thing, at the Memorial Day ceremony at the Los Angeles National Cemetery I was invited by the cemetery director because I organized cleaning of headstones there. Well I was told to get a picture with Gay, whoops I mean Gray Davis. Once he saw a scout towering over him he had a look of disgust and just walked away. Everyone there did not like Davis or that wacko Assembly Leader.

[dennisw]

You and your family that pays Cali taxes got SCREWED! Your folks paid taxes and now you don't get to go to a California school that would be good and not cost as much. You will have larger student loans to pay back.

Maybe going to BYU is all to the good. Who knows.

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I think the UC system is going down the tubes, what used to be the premier public university system is lowering their standards in the name of diversity. This will really hurt the system and I am glad I am not going to have to deal with it. Also I will have fun at a very republican school, BYU.

Best wishes in your studies at BYU.

We could stop this nonsense and hold to the gains of prop 209 and Washington's I-200 if the GOP, from President Bush down, would show some backbone on preferences.

But he, and many others, are actually supporting this sort of injustice, under the warm and fuzzy name of "affirmative access."

It's a pity.

Cheers,

Richard F.

[RussellStevens]

FYI BYU is cheaper then any school in the UC system, but not as cheap as the Cal State system.

[breakem]

I don't think there's a GOP in Cal anymore. Anybody?

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Your folks paid taxes and now you don't get to go to a California school that would be good and not cost as much. You will have larger student loans to pay back.

The taxpayer subsidy to a UC school is, over 4 years, about $80,000. Not a cheap way to buy Hispanic votes! And GWB and the CA GOP probably won't get many anyway.

Cheers,

Richard F.