Posted on 07/12/2002 10:51:03 AM PDT by gubamyster
Most atheists, of course, would rather get rid of God, but still keep the rationality in the universe that comes from actually having a God, Who understood all things before they were, and then made them to be.
Brilliant. Not surprised when I reached the end and saw it was written by Michael Novak. If God does not exist, there is no basis for human dignity. Atheistic talk of the "rights of man" is really meaningless, as we are nothing more than a bag of guts and hormones, and my opinion is worth no more than yours. The ACLU wants to remake America in its image, God help us.
Very few people outside of a mental institution really behave as if there is no controlling moral authority. Neitzche saw the consequences of their being no God and went mad.
We find these truths to be self evident, - we are born with free will, and the ability to use it to distinguish tween right/wrong.
- Thus, - 'do onto others, as you would have them do onto you', is a golden rule, a fit basis for human dignity.
- Without debating about God.
Atheistic talk of the "rights of man" is really meaningless, as we are nothing more than a bag of guts and hormones, and my opinion is worth no more than yours.
True enough, to a degree, -- but if we ALL agree on some basic 'rights of man' - [as per our constitution]. -
-- Does it make any real difference who believes what with respect to religion?
Ageement is a voluntary act. If one is free to agree, one is just as free to disagree. If morality is a matter of agreement, morality can be made, unmade, and redesigned at will.
The madman Neitzsche was right. Hate is no better than love; slavery is no better than liberty where atheism is followed honestly and consistently. You want the good that comes from worship of God, but with worshipping God. You are a freeloader.
Libertarianism is the freeloaders' ideology.
We find these truths to be self evident, - we are born with free will, and the ability to use it to distinguish tween right/wrong.
- Thus, - 'do onto others, as you would have them do onto you', is a golden rule, a fit basis for human dignity.
- Without debating about God.
--- if we ALL agree on some basic 'rights of man' - [as per our constitution]. - -- Does it make any real difference who believes what with respect to religion? 8 by tpaine
You just quoted the words of Christ, and yet you say that religion doesn't matter.
Didn't say that at all. -- And all religions have some version of the golden rule. - Christs is a fine one.
I say that in the end religion is all that matters, otherwise me have only ourselves to look to for what is right and wrong. And in that case what you think is therefore no better than what I think.
I say that how we actually treat one another is more important than religious opinions. -- I'd bet Christ would also.
If you had an intellect worth speaking of, you'd know that "libertarian" and "athiest" are hardly the same thing.
Of course, if you had an intellect worth speaking of, you wouldn't be a party to such a weak, pathetic defense of Christianity as consequentialism. The athiests have already begun pointing out how stupid and irrelevant it is, and you can't answer because it is stupid and irrelevant.
We find these truths to be self evident, - we are born with free will, and the ability to use it to distinguish tween right/wrong.
- Thus, - 'do onto others, as you would have them do onto you', is a golden rule, a fit basis for human dignity.
- Without debating about God.
--- if we ALL agree on some basic 'rights of man' - [as per our constitution]. -
-- Does it make any real difference who believes what with respect to religion?
Ageement is a voluntary act. If one is free to agree, one is just as free to disagree.
The constitution is a contract, valid till violated. - As an individual you can disagree with its protected rights, but you violate them at your peril.
If morality is a matter of agreement, morality can be made, unmade, and redesigned at will.
Not so kevin. -- We have recognized inalienable rights in the constitution, among them the rights to life, liberty, and property [14th]. You should learn to live with them.
The madman Neitzsche was right. Hate is no better than love; slavery is no better than liberty where atheism is followed honestly and consistently. You want the good that comes from worship of God, but with worshipping God. You are a freeloader. Libertarianism is the freeloaders' ideology.
Weird kevin. Your own hate twists everything you comment on. - Even your religious claims. You're a sad excuse for a Christian, imo.
From Nietzche's Aphorisms:
"A soul who knows it is loved but does not love back reveals its sediment; it is turned completely bottom side up."
"Insanity is the exception in individuals. In groups, parties, peoples and times, it is the rule."
(And my favorite) - "Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
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