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DR. RON PAUL S HOMELAND SECURITY PROPOSAL PASSED BY HOUSE COMMITTEE
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Posted on 07/11/2002 6:10:12 PM PDT by Zviadist
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"Paul wants the State department to add Saudi Arabia to the list, given the overwhelming evidence of Saudi support and funding for al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups."Anyone see the hearing? I heard Dr. Paul introduced the above measure on Saudi Arabia and was shot down. At least he got the other stuff passed...
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posted on
07/11/2002 6:10:12 PM PDT
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Zviadist
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posted on
07/11/2002 6:10:39 PM PDT
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Bob J
To: Zviadist
The only thing that surprises me is that it took ten months for this to happen.
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07/11/2002 6:19:04 PM PDT
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Illbay
To: Zviadist
I'm surprised that Ron Paul is the one that proposed this. Isn't he supposed to be for open borders?
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07/11/2002 6:25:42 PM PDT
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Frohickey
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To: Zviadist
Ron Paul and Liberty Comittee BUMP!
To: Libertarianize the GOP
bttt
To: Illbay
The only thing that surprises me is that it took ten months for this to happen.I think he proposed something similar just days after the attack.
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07/12/2002 6:19:49 AM PDT
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Zviadist
To: shigure
What the heck is a "diversity visa"? Sounds spooky, no? Perhaps we have a quota of terrorists we are supposed to let in? In the name of "diversity"?
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07/12/2002 6:20:42 AM PDT
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Zviadist
To: Fish out of Water; Carry_Okie; AAABEST; A. Pole; Agrarian; Alamo-Girl; Anthem; asneditor; ...
Ron Paul ping!
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07/12/2002 7:35:30 AM PDT
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madfly
To: Frohickey
Don't buy into all the scare tactics the neoconservatives use to knock libertarians. Most of us are for reasonible border/immigration policy.
A couple hundred like Dr. Paul in DC and we could fix this country.
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07/12/2002 7:41:46 AM PDT
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steve50
To: Zviadist
Good move. I thought from the title that it was to be a more comprehensive proposal.
To: Carry_Okie
I thought from the title that it was to be a more comprehensive proposal. From what I understand, he tried to offer a stronger proposal, particularly on Saudi Arabia, and was shot down by the Committee.
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07/12/2002 8:50:08 AM PDT
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Zviadist
To: Zviadist
Sure beats the "patriot" act.
To: Zviadist
I was hoping that he would write one of his epic tomes pointing out that it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Federal government to provide homeland security, and that the only real security comes from an educated, informed, armed, and united people (note I didn't say "diverse").
Oh well, one can hope.
I was in a Post Office line yesterday. A young middle eastern man (probably Indian, but could have been Pakistani) came in bearing a large, unmarked, and heavy package. It was too heavy for the mail. After the clerk rejected it, he put it down on a table and walked out. I looked at my two kids and said, "We're getting out of here, now," and beelined it for the door. After making certain that we were behind a wall and that a blast would go out the front of the building, I watched the young man go to his car telling the kids, "Odds are a thousand to one that he's OK and there's no problem. We're going to watch him." The guy opened the trunk and returned. I stopped him at the door and explained his faux pas. He understood, but was defensive. Next time I'll offer to help carry the box.
When we went back in we noted that NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAD LEFT THE LINE. The lady in front beckoned us back in front and expressed her approval of my protective acton on behalf of my kids. "Your dad is a good man," she said. She was a German immigrant. None of the clerks had noticed the box.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for the Federal government to provide homeland security. The only real security comes from an educated, informed, armed, and united people.
OK, so I said it.
To: steve50
Don't buy into all the scare tactics the neoconservatives use to knock libertarians. Most of us are for reasonible border/immigration policy. A couple hundred like Dr. Paul in DC and we could fix this country. Ah. I had thought that libertarians are for totally open borders. I agree with most of what the libertarians think, but totally open borders is one of the ones I don't agree with.
To: Frohickey
The libertarian position on borders needs to be understood in the context of property rights. In a libertarian society, you should be free to employ Mexicans, just as others are free to turn down your business or refuse to cash your employees' paychecks or rent them an apartment. Additionally, since the nation's geographic borders would fall on private property, you'd have to secure the agreement of others to let them in.
Since our borders are publicly controlled, it stands to reason that the citizens, not the government, should have the final say on who gets in and who doesn't. Most if not all libertarians would agree that open borders are inconsistent with the existence of the United States' welfare democracy.
To: madfly
Thanks for the heads up!
To: KentuckyWoman
Ron Paul Ping !!
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