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Scientific American threatens AiG : Demands immediate removal of Web rebuttal
AIG ^ | 2002/07/11 | AIG

Posted on 07/11/2002 9:44:50 AM PDT by ZGuy

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To: Aric2000
Good luck on Judgement Day.
461 posted on 07/12/2002 8:20:12 AM PDT by berned
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To: berned
Good luck on your reincarnation.
462 posted on 07/12/2002 8:21:29 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: medved
Simple solution: find some new friends.

The one thing that might drive me off FR are creationists. It truly upsets me so many otherwise sane conservatives adhere to such mumbo-jumbo. And I have to say that most scientists, whose instincts are generally conservative, are repelled from the conservative movement for exactly this reason. So I wish *you* and your pals would find some new friends. A lot of creationist arguments are entirely consistent with multiculti-liberalism. You might like it there.

463 posted on 07/12/2002 8:24:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: JediGirl
LOL, GOOD ONE!! I liked it!!
464 posted on 07/12/2002 8:26:13 AM PDT by Aric2000
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To: Tribune7
What do you think of Behe and ID?

"Because right at this minute I don't have the knowledge or imagination to figure out how it could occurred, it can't have occurred"

If Newton had gone through all the things he could see and couldn't explain right at that minute, the law of Universal Gravitation would never have been found.

465 posted on 07/12/2002 8:27:44 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: f.Christian
Buddy, I teach thermodymanics, I'm currently writing a textbook on it, and this is arrant nonsense.

It is partially a universal law of decay; the ultimate cause of why everything ultimately falls apart and disintegrates over time.

Nonsense. It says heat always flows spontaneously from hot to cold objects, or (another phrasing) entropy always increases in a spontaneous process. But identifying entropy with decay is simply incorrect. Next!

It is well known that, left to themselves, chemical compounds ultimately break apart into simpler materials; they do not ultimately become more complex.

What happens when an epoxy resin sets? What happens when iron rusts?

Squawk! Polly repeating utter nonsense! Squawk!

466 posted on 07/12/2002 8:34:50 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
the law of Universal Gravitation would never have been found.

And that's exactly the point. There *is* no such thing as gravity.

The Earth just sucks.

:-D

(sorry, old, stupid joke, but sometimes I just can't resist a straight line)

467 posted on 07/12/2002 8:37:13 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: Right Wing Professor
The one thing that might drive me off FR are creationists. It truly upsets me so many otherwise sane conservatives adhere to such mumbo-jumbo.

They are a small group. But they have a tendency to try to shout down all rational opposition by closing their eyes and minds and repeating the same old nonsense again and again and again.

468 posted on 07/12/2002 8:55:08 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: Right Wing Professor
Don't try and debate facts with Fchristian, he does not like facts, will ignore facts and will continue to talk nonsense no matter how many facts you toss to him.

Please keep involved in these threads, having REAL experts really helps the argument and just upsets the creationists big time, because they can't get away with some of the stuff they say, that they normally would, because not all of us are experts, we just know that the experts do know what they are talking about.
469 posted on 07/12/2002 9:00:10 AM PDT by Aric2000
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To: JediGirl
Intelligent Design isn't creationism dear.
470 posted on 07/12/2002 9:19:15 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: PatrickHenry
I should rephrase then. Science doesn't but the clergy and laity of post-Modern scientific extremism do. That's why these threads are packed full of atheists touting science to support their inane world view. Anyway, I think we've beaten this dead horse long enough, don't you?
471 posted on 07/12/2002 9:21:58 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Dominic Harr
In the most traditional sense of the word, Yes I am.
472 posted on 07/12/2002 9:22:28 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: medved
For the lowdown on Chuck Darwin, stupidest white man of all time and his BS theory, and on the continuing efforts of feebs like Steve Gould and Niles Eldredge to keep the charade going for another generation:

Read the above erudite prose, and then read this:

http://www.literature.org/authors/darwin-charles/the-origin-of-species/chapter-01.html

Now which sample of prose evinces the more intellligence? Does anyone really think Darwin's writing is consistent with his being the stupidest white man of all time? Heck, I don't even think medved is the stupidest white man of all time!

473 posted on 07/12/2002 9:30:37 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Creationism by any other name would still be just as dogmatic.
474 posted on 07/12/2002 9:34:21 AM PDT by JediGirl
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To: Aric2000; Right Wing Professor; balrog666
Don't try and debate facts with Fchristian, he does not like facts, will ignore facts and will continue to talk nonsense no matter how many facts you toss to him. Please keep involved in these threads, having REAL experts really helps the argument and just upsets the creationists big time, because they can't get away with some of the stuff they say, that they normally would, because not all of us are experts, we just know that the experts do know what they are talking about.

We creationists simply believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. We filter everything we believe through that prism. The three of you are all on record, in a public forum, laboring to convince people who may be reading this thread, that the Bible is NOT the inerrant Word of God.

If the three of you are correct, then Christianity is a false religion, and you are right to debunk it, and you have nothing to fear. If you are WRONG, then the words of Jesus Christ WILL apply to you on Judgement Day:

Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

The stakes are high for your actions. But after you read this note, you cannot claim ignorance of Jesus words on this matter.

475 posted on 07/12/2002 9:41:19 AM PDT by berned
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To: Right Wing Professor
...A lot of creationist arguments are entirely consistent with multiculti-liberalism...

Tell it like it is! Historically, anti-evo has been associated with D*ms and populists (think of the Scopes trial), and evolution has been asociatted with 'pointy-headed Yankee professors'.

476 posted on 07/12/2002 9:41:52 AM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: JediGirl
# 475 applies to you too, Jedi Girl. I know you have no respect for what the Bible says, but you now know the consequences of that disrespect.
477 posted on 07/12/2002 9:43:18 AM PDT by berned
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To: berned
I have read the entire bible, front to back, it is almost impossible to take seriously if you know the historical background in which it was written. See Koran and you will KNOW exactly what I mean. Or how about the book of Mormon, or any number of other "holy" books.

Of course they are going to threaten you with damnation if you don't believe. Religion was not started for loving reasons, it was created for POWER!! Looked at in that light can change your entire life.

Again, be a christian, but threatening me with eternal damnation if I don't believe you, expect me to Laugh at you, right to your face!! Again, believe what you want, but do not stop science and others from finding the actual truth because it may show that you are wrong.
478 posted on 07/12/2002 9:49:10 AM PDT by Aric2000
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To: Right Wing Professor
Heck, I don't even think medved is the stupidest white man of all time!

If not him, then to whom does that honor belong?

EBUCK

479 posted on 07/12/2002 10:01:22 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: berned
We creationists simply believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

Luke 3:

35: Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,

36: Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,

Genesis 10:

21: Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.

22: The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.

23: And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.

24: And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber.

So was Salah Arphaxad's grandchild, or his child? And if Cainan was Arphaxad's child, and Cainan begat Salah, then how come Genesis 10:6 says Canaan was the son of Ham?

My own theory is that Luke was trying to show how Jesus was descended from David, to fulfill prophecy, and he added the genealogy of David for completeness, but goofed (or one of his translators goofed) in adding Canaan to the direct line. And it wasn't important to the point he was making, so only a Biblical literalist would consider it a problem.

480 posted on 07/12/2002 10:03:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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