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Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)
Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

Posted on 07/11/2002 6:47:45 AM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: FresnoDA
OFFICIAL DW TRIAL THREAD THESAURUS

Insectophile=

SlutJackals=A BISEXUALLY AGGRESSIVE FEMALE TYPE SPECIES, WITH OUT SCRUPLES, RESTRAINT OR MORAL FIBER. WILLING TO SETTLE FOR ANYTHING THAT SATISFIES BASAL DESIRES, AND IN ANY WAY CONSIDERED MOMENTARILY CONVENIENT...

Feldmanized=

FIRECRACKERS = A bunch of noise and sparks, a little fire, but mostly smoke, and then after a while, they are gone.

Premature Accusation=

Beetlemania=

461 posted on 07/11/2002 3:03:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: FresnoDA
No need to stop there, FDA - how about adding to the definition of 'slutjackal':

Masters of deceit, sinister, cold-hearted, savage creatures which prey upon ambushing unsuspecting neighbors.

462 posted on 07/11/2002 3:04:31 PM PDT by GoRepGo
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To: John Jamieson
I lose, found mine, 10 feet from my keyboard in the laundry room.
463 posted on 07/11/2002 3:05:13 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: RnMomof7
That may well be. Surely nothing good can come out of that "lifestyle," if the reports are true that they were into really "pervy" swinging.

I don't know, 'cause I haven't been there. But I think in today's climate--especially in the post-Orenthal era--the prosecutor usually has a pretty high degree of confidence in his case before he commits to trial.

Look at the JonBenet case. Even though the most prominent theory has Patsy Ramsay doing her own kid in, there's still no indictment.

This guy'll have his day in court and thank God we have the system we do have, flaws and all. But I have a hunch he's guilty, and he's goin' down for it.

That doesn't mean that Van Dam Mere et Pere aren't creeps, but they're probably not murderers.

464 posted on 07/11/2002 3:06:00 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: John Jamieson
All blue fibers were on the sheet, not the body. I thought that was strange. Where did that sheet come from? Who certified that it was clean to start with? was it stored in some cop's trunk with old uniforms?

There was a blue fiber within (not laying on top of) her hair.

For testimony on the sheet, see the ME's testimony early (after Damon, I believe) and he explains it is specifically to cover the body withing the body bag to preserve any trace evidence on the body as the body is moved.

465 posted on 07/11/2002 3:07:00 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
"Lots of orange fibers in his house."


Fibers! Schmibers! I'll put my money on Dr. Faulkner. And just WHY do you suppose Dusek DIDN'T call him? Hmmmmmmm???? After his DAMAGING testimony to the prosecution yesterday........I'd say.

It's much more important to know approximate DATE the body was dumped, rather than fibers. It's impossible to get an exact match of fibers. I'll bet you probably have "similar" fibers in your house, to those they found on the body & in DW's laundry.
466 posted on 07/11/2002 3:08:30 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: winstonchurchill; RnMomof7
"...if the 'bug' evidence is correct, then DVD had to have an accomplice free (and willing) to dump the body on or about the 16th."

Or, DVD was able to do it himself. Recall this article from the 17th of Feb. this year--what was Damon doing out in the desert, accompanied by only one "good" friend?



Damon van Dam scours desert for Danielle as number of volunteer searchers drops

KENNETH MA
Staff Writer

SABRE SPRINGS ---- An optimistic Damon van Dam spent more than eight hours Saturday meticulously searching barren desert dunes and posting fliers at small businesses throughout east San Diego and Imperial counties in the hope of finding his missing 7-year-old daughter.

A search team from the San Diego County Sheriff's Department will look for Danielle van Dam in an area of Poway today.

On Saturday, shortly after dawn and well into the twilight hours, Damon van Dam and a high school friend drove a blue van across large sections of sun-dappled desert in areas such as Glamis, Ocotillo, Borrego Springs and Brawley. They handed out scores of fliers seeking help in finding Danielle, a Creekside Elementary second-grader who police say was last seen by her father Feb. 1 when he tucked her into bed at the family's home on Mountain Pass Road.

Police have said they believe the girl was abducted and that detectives have focused their investigation on a neighbor who lives two houses away. No arrests have been made, nor have any signs of Danielle surfaced.

Meanwhile, nearly 170 volunteers from the Danielle Recovery Center spent the day scouring the same desert locations for clues into Danielle's disappearance, coordinators said. The search efforts were being orchestrated from several locations, including the Glamis Beach Store, the Ocotillo Volunteer Fire Department and Christmas Circle in Borrego Springs.

"Although we are searching out here in the desert areas, I don't want people to stop searching San Diego," said Damon van Dam, who also spent part of Saturday recruiting more people to help search for his daughter.

Members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Search and Rescue Team will search a northern area of Poway close to the van Dams' Sabre Springs home today, police officials said Friday.

The region, bordered by Espola and Poway roads, has not been searched, and police said last week that they have information that a search in that vicinity will be useful. They have not said why they waited until today to search that area and San Diego police Capt. Ron Newman declined to comment further on the planned search.

Van Dam advised not to search

Damon van Dam was advised by police not to search the desert himself because crucial evidence discovered may be tainted as a result of his involvement with the case, his wife Brenda, 39, said Friday.

But Damon van Dam said Saturday he was traversing the desert with information about Danielle because it was an opportune time to reach throngs of people who are in the desert for the three-day Presidents Day weekend.

A neighbor of the van Dams, David Westerfield, 49, told reporters and police that he was in the desert the weekend Danielle disappeared. The neighbor has been questioned repeatedly by police, and investigators have impounded his motor home and taken several items from his house for analysis, police have said.

Volunteers dwindle

The number of volunteer searchers Saturday had dwindled substantially since last weekend, when the Danielle Recovery Center was established at the Double Tree Golf Resort in Carmel Mountain Ranch, coordinators said.

About 170 people are searching this weekend, a little more than half of the center's goal of 300 searchers. Last weekend, more than 400 searchers participated in the hunt.

"We are at the mercy of whoever walks through our doors," said Fiona Oberrick, a deputy director of the center. "We are so grateful for all of the selfless generosity of the hundreds of volunteers and donations from local businesses."

Oberrick said people returning to work last Monday and those with travel plans this weekend contributed to the decline in the number of searchers.

Marc Klaas, founder of the Polly Klaas Foundation, said the public may lose interest in the case if media coverage gradually declines.

Klaas said he believes people will be sympathetic to Danielle's disappearance and want to help if they see the little girl's face in the media frequently. "We need to create an effort to encourage people to come back on a regular basis (to volunteer)", said Klaas whose 12-year-old daughter, Polly Hannah Klaas, was kidnapped from her Petaluma home in 1993 and later found murdered.

467 posted on 07/11/2002 3:10:18 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: GoRepGo
OFFICIAL DW TRIAL THREAD THESAURUS

Insectophile=

SlutJackals=A BISEXUALLY AGGRESSIVE FEMALE TYPE SPECIES, WITH OUT SCRUPLES, RESTRAINT OR MORAL FIBER. WILLING TO SETTLE FOR ANYTHING THAT SATISFIES BASAL DESIRES, AND IN ANY WAY CONSIDERED MOMENTARILY CONVENIENT...Masters of deceit,sinister, cold-hearted, savage creatures which prey upon ambushing unsuspecting neighbors.

I will work on the formatting more, after I get definitions for all of them. Feldmanized=

FIRECRACKERS = A bunch of noise and sparks, a little fire, but mostly smoke, and then after a while, they are gone.

Premature Accusation=

Beetlemania=

468 posted on 07/11/2002 3:10:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: the Deejay
When Feldman was telling the judge about the incident where Brenda calls the witness an ASS****, he says , I sure that the Brenda will deny saying it.

Then Dusek gets up and does just that.

" Well judge, so and so was with Brenda and she says it never happened"
What a putz!

I notice they had no explanation for yelling at potiential buyers for DW'S house.

I wonder what some of the neighbors think about the VDs?
Well whatever they think it's clear that the VDs don't care.

They are the Whitest of White Trash
The Trashiest of Trash
The Skankiest of Skanks
............. and so on!!
469 posted on 07/11/2002 3:11:37 PM PDT by gigi
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To: agarrett
The assumption would clearly be that he killed her somewhere outside the motor home during the trip.

If she were alive in the motor home, the dog would have alerted inside the motor home. Your assumption is not valid.

470 posted on 07/11/2002 3:11:51 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
agarrett= firecracker
471 posted on 07/11/2002 3:14:46 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: All
Anyone know why the prosecution has a tape recorded statement of Denise and a psychic?
472 posted on 07/11/2002 3:15:43 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: All
Just had a thought. A couple of years ago the child of an acquaintance made a ONCE EVER visit to my home, and during the few minutes he was here, dropped some blood on my kitchen floor. It was a small drop, about the size of the one found in the MH, but I was unsuccessful in removing it completely. It's now a faint, small, brown stain.

I suppose if, God forbid, anything untoward ever happens to that kid, I'll be on trial fighting for my life...

473 posted on 07/11/2002 3:16:09 PM PDT by oremus
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To: UCANSEE2
I've been following the threads 3 or 4 days, I find it hard to prove DAW guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

The one factor I can not explain is the dry cleaner's incident on Monday morning. If I read correctly, DAW showed up early for a rush job, and, IIRC, he was barefoot.

Is this image I have accurate?

If so, I don't remember reading any theories explaining this. What's the general take on it?

longjack

474 posted on 07/11/2002 3:16:20 PM PDT by longjack
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To: Rheo
If Brenda was wearing the orange top at Dad's and danced with DW, DW would expect to have orange fibers transferred from Brenda to himself. Acrylic is notoriously bad for static, especially in a dry environment like San Diego.
475 posted on 07/11/2002 3:16:35 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: UCANSEE2
One of Feldman's questions to Brenda has been bothering me.

Feldman asked her if Bill Libby has ever spent the night at the VD home. He asked her that TWICE, I believe she answered....NO... Well, now we all know what Brenda's "NO" means.

Could it be that Feldman was just throwing that out there? (to see her reaction)

Could it be that there are some witnesses that Libby was there on occasion? (Maybe the boys, in a police report??)

Also, who is Bill Libby? I know he's a neighbor, I know he has a cabin in Big Bear? I know Damon made plans with him that weekend and Brenda wanted him around with her too. What kind of business does he own? Is there more info. out there on this guy??

What if Libby showed up at the VD home about 3:30AM that Fri? He might be really good friends with the VD and had a key to their home. I wonder if the police ever talked with him???



476 posted on 07/11/2002 3:16:48 PM PDT by juzcuz
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To: Illbay
You have a "hunch" DW is guilty and you feel that the van Dams are "probably not murderers".

If there is any reasonable possiblity the van Dams are murderers, DW has to walk.

Your viewpoint can only result in a NOT GUILTY decision.
477 posted on 07/11/2002 3:16:59 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: hoosiermama
NO, don't think so. He is listening, learning and open minded.
478 posted on 07/11/2002 3:19:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Rheo
I was asking you what you meant by "none found except..."
479 posted on 07/11/2002 3:19:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: juzcuz
Bill Libby was also in charge of the "Find Danielle Fund", but he said donations were really light........RIGHT.
480 posted on 07/11/2002 3:19:49 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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