Expert: Body dumped after defendant fell under suspicion (SO WHO DUMPED DANIELLE VAN DAM'S BODY??)

Union Trib ^ | July 11, 2002 | Steve Perez/Greg Magnus

[PrairieDawg]

Jaded wrote:

I'm sitting here listening to my radio. The current song is Humble Pie's 30 Days in the Hole. Is it applicable?

Hmmm. Let's look at some of the lyrics...

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Newcastle Brown, I'm tellin' you, it can sure smack you down
Take a greasy whore and a rollin' dance floor
It's got your head spinnin' round
If you live on the road, well there's a new highway code
You take the urban noise with some dirt with poison
It's gonna lessen your load

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Hmm. As a VanDam*d theme song I think it's right up there! Ya'll who aren't old enough to remember go to this and check out the lyrics (not sure about the transcription of the next to last line of what I posted though).

FRegards!
PrairieDawg

[cyncooper]

I do live in a neighborhood with kids. Some that are in and out of my house! If God forbid one was missing I would be able to account for any forensic evidence that could be found. I would think it possible that hair could be found, for instance. Same for blood, possibly, if I had patched up a scraped knee. I certainly can say that a child was not in my car or home without my permission. I keep it locked and the garage door closed. I really think the hypothetical that "what if that kind of evidence turned up anyway" is not realistic. I would be under scrutiny, and rightly so, by the police. If I was gone from my home at the same time the child disappeared, again the police would look carefully. This after they look at the parents first as they always do, and did (contrary to some assertions) in the van Dam case.

[Karson]

I heard Judge Mudd say that Damon was present this morning when he approved his motion to be let back in the courtroom. Do you know whether or not Brenda was there?

[Lanza]

IMHO the Damon acting all "gonna get Westerfield" is kind of too little too late. The DVD's whole demeanor has been questioned (especially if it is true that BVD at the prelim mouthed "Hi Dave"), so I think it is all for show. Just my opinion of course.

[GoldenBear]

Thanks.

[the-gooroo]

CTV is showing a replay of Denise on the witness stand. She accepts a drink from DW but then say's he's creepy and trying to show-off that he had a lot of money. The judge throws out those comments. Very interesting to watch this again after so much of the prosecution case has been refuted.

[cyncooper]

(especially if it is true that BVD at the prelim mouthed "Hi Dave"),

It's not true.

[Angelique]

I agree with you. The parents have behaved in a manner that almost shows disregard for their daughter's death.

When I was a child, a girl was kidnapped, and murdered. The mother's hair turned white overnight, and both the mother and the father had hollowed eyes.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I never heard if Brenda was there or not. She's probably taking advantage of the court break and shopping blinds and carpet for the new abode.

[Lanza]

How do you know it's not true?

[redhawk]

I don't believe BVD said "Hi Dave" but she did refer to him
as "Dave" during her testimony. This seemed rather odd for
someone who thinks that he murdered her daughter.

[cyncooper]

I watched the preliminary hearing. Neither van Dam displayed a friendly demeanor toward DW in any way. Quite the opposite.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

And I don't lend credence to arguments that are buttressed with personal attacks such as calling one a "VDA" or telling someone they are not ethical enough to be a good juror.

Sorry, but VDA happens to fit some people. The very same people who want to cast every negative light possible on DW's every breath are willing to give a pass and an "oh well" to a couple who are undoubtedly to this day putting their kids at risk.

As for ethical, that is your word; not mine. I said I hoped you never had to be judged in the manner you appear to be judging this defendant.

You have him convicted and sentenced and the defense has not even rested. Guess what? That does not an honest juror make. Call it ethics or whatever you want. If the shoe fits..........

[Blue Screen of Death]

then say's he's creepy and trying to show-off that he had a lot of money.

No matter what happens the money must be about gone. Even if he is aquitted, this must come close to finincial wipe out. Scary that you can be accused, tried, found innocent and still be destroyed. I am sure Fieldman is a tad expensive and will not take Worldcomm stock as payment.

[Karson]

I watched the preliminary hearing. Neither van Dam displayed a friendly demeanor toward DW in any way. Quite the opposite.

I didn't realize there were 2 PHs. Apparently I watched the other one.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Does anyone have the verbatim admonition that the judge recites to the jurors every day? You know the one about making any decisions prior to the end of the case.

I think a refresher course is in order.

[cyncooper]

You have him convicted and sentenced

See, I don't see how you can make that statement. I certainly do not.

I can say the evidence is very strong, and I could even say that at this point I'd vote for a conviction, but the case isn't over.

I most certainly don't know how I'd vote on sentencing. I guess you think I'd vote for the Death Penalty. I think probably not, and I believe such a penalty requires a unanimous verdict.

[juzcuz]

Pendergast/Truman--

Thanks, didn't know about them.

You know there is good reason many are suspicious of people with that much power=money. Alot of 'poor'and 'innocent' people have suffered through our imperfect 'Justice System'. It makes one wonder if "JUSTICE IS BLIND" when it comes to the color of money.. To many people justice seems lopsided and bent toward a more favorable side, that has nothing to do with 'truth', but FAVORABLE IMPRESSIONS, and favorable impressions can be easily bought.

Nevertheless, I keep thinking of the statement in the GF Michael Corleone tells Kate, something to the effect...'you think politicians don't have men killed..Kate'?

PS, in LA history is was a known fact that the old KINGFISH, Huey P. Long, was a presidental rival to Roosevelt. Long was assassinated and alot of CYNICS of Roosevelt believed that he had something to do with that. Also, I still wonder who killed Kennedy???

[UCANSEE2]

This after they look at the parents first as they always do, and did (contrary to some assertions) in the van Dam case.

This they did to a certain degree. But, answer this. After it was clear that the parents were lying, about drugs, etc. WHY DIDN'T THE POLICE INVESTIGATE FURTHER?

Can you compare the investigations done to the Jahi Turner case, where the boy disappeared from a park, but the police turned the residence of the parents into a POLICE INVESTIGATION SITE,and wouldn't allow ANYONE INSIDE?

At the Van Dam's, they allowed neighbors,friends, strangers to come in and cross contaminate,clean up, have parties, etc. while investigations were going on. (I have embellished only slightly, but I will admit some)

[John Jamieson]

Three things Freepers could be searching for:

1. Records on van Dam Van. Make, model, color, date sold, to who?

2. Records on van Dam (or swinger's club) real estate deals (there were many) Did they own a vacant house somewhere, that might have had electricity and a working refrigerator?

3. Press reports on van Dam's wild ride through the desert on 2/15,2/16,2/17. What was he wearing? What's the boyfriend's name? What did the van look like? Did he go anywhere near El Cajon?