THE RANT: Just when did our daughters start dressing like hookers?

Capital Hill Blue ^ | July 8, 2002 | Doug Thompson

[McLynnan]

My daughter is like yours and has the self esteem and confidence to say no to Madison Avenue. We spend an inordinate amount of time shopping to find clothes that don't scream "teen slut queen". If parents would quit shelling out money to buy bordello clothes, the clothing manufacturers would get the message. It doesn't hurt to complain to the managers of department stores either. The local Dillard's manager knows exactly why we no longer shop the junior department in his store.

[bourbon]

feminism's mistake was locating the origin of sexual mores in oppressive patriarchy and making a frontal assault on those mores as being 'corrupt' and 'illegitimate.' In doing so, feminist theorists lost sight of the fact that women's interests were solidly protected by these rules. All women are currently paying the price for this error in one respect or another.

[Flyer]

my Pat Benatar lookalike period

The "lookalike" thing seems to be a theme with you.

(I was just passing by this thread - I have no interest here whatsoever)

[TrappedInLiberalHell]

I'm never having children. I'm smart enough to know that I'd either overparent or underparent to the extreme. It's how I am. Not everybody is cut out to be parents. Some of us have other roles to play in life, though many parents view this as a selfish decision. Of course it is. So is HAVING children. We want the satisfaction of doing something to make others' lives better. This is inherently selfish -- wanting that satisfaction. Then there are those who wish to preserve a legacy, such as Saddam.

But articles like this certainly help me justify my decision. I'd wager it's harder now to raise a child than it's ever been. Even back in the dark days of crib death, war, famine, etc. Family values, as trite a phrase as it is, seem to be viewed as an archaic notion, not suited for our time. Enlightened, are we? I think not. I blame the rise of liberalism for this.

Sorry for rambling. Today quite possibly will end up being one of the worst, if not the worst, days of my life. It's a loooonnnng story.

[goldstategop]

We have feminism to blame for women looking, dressing, and behaving like sluts in public. Add to that feminists' winks and nods to women putting themselves into sexually compromising positions as long as its a liberal man who gets the pleasure of being serviced by them. NOW would agree women have come a long way on their watch.

[Tony in Hawaii]

I wonder when word'll get out that men actually find modesty attractive. Speaking for myself, I'd like to think I'm getting something that every Tom, Dick and Harry hasn't already had.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Wish I could find that FR post about the college professor who has noted the change in young ladies nowadays. I loved the line he used, words to the effect of:

"now they all want to see who can be the sassiest trollop."

What a shame.

[Don Myers]

Ok, I will ask you. I was going to let it go by, but why not?

We have a situation today in which the young people are being taught to be completely hedonistic. If, if they marry, it is much later in life with, at the moment, a fifty percent success rate. I would not be surprised if drugs are not legalized in the US. The entire face of America is being changed for the worse, with growth of big government and the welfare state a constant situation. Our institutions and our people are corrupt.

I could go on, but I believe that we have been corrupted enough in our society that it will take more than one generation to fix the situation. It took more than one generation to get to where we are now.

Considering that it took two or three generations to get to where we are now, I do not think that we have reached the point yet where things might turn around. It might take another generation or more before things do begin turning around. It will take maybe three or four generations after that before the situation gets back to where this country will again be where it was not all of that long ago.

If I am correct, how do you believe that the next generation will be better?

[RepoGirl]

I thought '80s chic was my skintight Glorias, roach-clip earrings, and hot-pink legwarmers! (And don't even get me started on my Pat Benatar lookalike period.)

Oh... Glorias and roachclip earrings... oh wow, couple those with a pair of cheap, purple metallic wraparound sunglasses and these, dear readers, encapsulate all that was eighth grade and the Martin County Fair circa 1981. Lest we forget, though, the whole Madonna thing with the underwear on the outside of the clothing thing (sorta like the secretary in Splash...)now THAT was some high class fashion!

Personally, I don't understand what the fuss is. When I was a demographic tween, the fad was to wear aforementioned jeans, spike heeled disco sandals, and lots and lots of hair spray and the ugliest colored lip glosses you could steal (usually in colors that are now painted on cars favored by gang bangers). How did my mom deal with this? Very easily. She had the charge card (it was called Bank Americard back then) and I didn't.

Thus, my fascination with hi-top Chuck Taylors continues to this day...

[goldstategop]

You forget one thing: if its Bill Clinton getting a BJ, its OK with the feminists. No sexual harrassment there there.

[Don Myers]

"Speaking for myself, I'd like to think I'm getting something that every Tom, Dick and Harry hasn't already had."

From what I have seen, the typical guy could start a club, with most of the guys in town, to compare notes on his significant other, when the nights get long and cold. Such a thing can effectively kill romance with the little lady. But, there is always pure sex, for the joy of sex, right? No entanglement, just sex.

[Incorrigible]

décolletage

Whoa!  Had to head to m-w.com for that one.

 

One entry found for décolletage.

Main Entry: dé·col·le·tage
Pronunciation: (")dA-"kä-l&-'täzh, (")dA-"kol-'täzh, "de-kl&-
Function: noun
Etymology: French, action of cutting or wearing a low neckline, from décolleter
Date: 1894
1 : the low-cut neckline of a dress
2 : a décolleté dress
3 : ¹BUST 2

 

But the whole idea of women's lib in the 60's and 70's was that women wanted to be taken seriously and not just seen as a sex object, no?

[truefrankness]

of course, we can all probably remember when we were all getting really upset when girls were calling themselves "earth goddesses" practicing celibavy and meditation and talking about taking responsibility for the fiture generations of the world!

[Tuor]

What they really want is love.

And this is exactly where their mothers, or their parents in general, fail them. What boys really want is sex -- period. Sure, there are some exceptions to the rule, but very, very few of them. Guys can't get pregnant, don't want kids, don't want attachments, but *do* want a good time, particularly if they walk away from it the next day.

I don't know what women (or girls) want. I'm a guy. I do know what we want, not just myself, but nearly every other guy I've ever known... until they get older. Eventually, yes, we may want love and a relationship, but *not* while we're in our teens, and rarely while we're in our early twenties.

Guys are fundamentally different than gals. Women need to realize that. They can't be like us, and they shouldn't try to make us be like them. You wont get a properly functioning society by ignoring the basic differences between men and women, but by accounting for them and integrating them into the fabric of society, as was always done before.

Tuor

Give me liberty or give me death.

[goldstategop]

Apparently the feminists held that women couldn't be sex objects for uptight, censorious, prudish, and pro-life men. And we all know conservative men are not supposed to be sexy either to nubile beauties.

[bourbon]

The feminists will say that this whole 'teenage whore' phenomenon is part of a conspiracy against feminism.

I don't doubt it. The typical feminist mind seems to be enormously adept at generating internal contradictions and remaing blissfully ignorant of them.

[goldstategop]

Makes you wonder where all the bra burning women went to. They either all turned lesbo or sluttish.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Allow it? Plenty of the moms dress that way themselves!

[Tony in Hawaii]

"But, there is always pure sex, for the joy of sex, right? No entanglement, just sex."

That's why there are VCRs. Otherwise, there's always an "entaglement," like it or not.