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Singer's remark riles Hispanics -- Greeley debates 'English' comment
Denver Post ^ | July 9, 2002 | Michael Riley

Posted on 07/09/2002 10:43:24 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan

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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Read the thread, I don't give a rat's ass whether illegal immigrants learn English or not, they're not supposed to be here at all.

But the gist of the comments that I responded to, were from people saying that we needed to establish an "official" language in the US...by law.

My response was then, and it continues to be that the government is forbidden to do so by the First Amendment for anything beyond it's own workings.

The rest of you guys, obssesed with illegal immigrants (as you all are), immediately jumped on the "illegals have no wish to learn English" bandwagon.

Not what I am talking about.

341 posted on 07/10/2002 7:34:34 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: FreedomFriend
Your post really struck a chord with me. We lived in Brunswick, GA when I was a child, for about 4 years before we moved back to Texas. We really missed the food we grew up on. It never occured to us that we couldn't buy our favorite foods in the store, but in Georgia my father had to start making us tortillas and salsa, for example, and we had to get our family to mail us jalepenos from Texas! No one who visited us could pronounce the names of the food we ate, which was fine with us. We were living true diversity, knowing that we came from a specific culture and were currently living in a very different one. We liked it just fine.

I was very sad to read your post. Times have changed, and not for the better. I weep for this country.

342 posted on 07/10/2002 7:34:51 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Read the thread, I don't give a rat's ass whether illegal immigrants learn English or not, they're not supposed to be here at all.

Nice to hear you say that, I nominate you head of the INS then since Washington seems to think it's no big deal they're pouring into our communities and imposing their culture on us.

343 posted on 07/10/2002 7:43:25 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: SamBees
No, actually, I have been discussing legal immigrants (Mr. Brock didn't mention illegal immigrants) YOU, on the other hand, keep trying to take the conversation to illegals...again in REALLY big letters.

I don't care whether illegal immigrants learn to speak English or not. I don't want them here to begin with, so why would I be interested in their ability to assimilate into the culture?


344 posted on 07/10/2002 7:45:57 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: SamBees
They need to get out of our country.

That's right, and these pandering politicians who refuse to toss these squatters out need to go along with them.

345 posted on 07/10/2002 7:46:44 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Dakmar
"...all we do is drink beer and listen to polka music..."

What time should I come over?

no tejano music please, it sounds like a polka with an accent

346 posted on 07/10/2002 7:48:43 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Under the Radar
Then you also know as well as I do that Spanish has been an official language of New Mexico since statehood.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/JWCRAWFORD/nm-con.htm
347 posted on 07/10/2002 7:55:11 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Tancredo Fan
I love this guy! I love this guy! He's the first "chad" worth anything!
348 posted on 07/10/2002 7:56:52 AM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"Nice to hear you say that..."

I said the same thing in posts #218, #310, #318, #322, #326, #332, and #336...several of them addressed to you by the way. Maybe YOU need to learn English.

349 posted on 07/10/2002 7:57:57 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Anytime, Luis, anytime. I'll warn you, though, the beer is served at room temperature.
350 posted on 07/10/2002 7:58:40 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Luis Gonzalez
So, hasta la vista maricón.

This post made me laugh out loud. You just proved the point of the ones you are arguing against. If you had called someone a "faggot" in English here on FR, that post would have been deleted, so you use Spanish to subvert your message. Keep it up, this is rich stuff!

351 posted on 07/10/2002 7:58:45 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Under the Radar
"...you use Spanish to subvert your message..."

You mean to hide it from the .5% of the population that doesn't know what that word means?

PLEEEEZE!!!!

Here I am, hiding in plain sight again.

352 posted on 07/10/2002 8:03:59 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Dakmar
"...the beer is served at room temperature."

It's simply uncivilized to serve it otherwise.

353 posted on 07/10/2002 8:05:27 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I said the same thing in posts #218, #310, #318, #322, #326, #332, and #336...several of them addressed to you by the way. Maybe YOU need to learn English.

Now, now Luis, I always spoke well of you.

You need to read my posts as well, I don't care what language legal Hispanics want to speak at home or on the street. I think it would be courteous of them though at work to speak English, it's not too much to ask since this wonderful country was generous enough to let them in. It's illegals who are splitting the country apart, and the boys in Washington need to stop playing games with this. Maybe Mr. Brock is the start of something, I hope so.

354 posted on 07/10/2002 8:06:31 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Luis Gonzalez
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See?

355 posted on 07/10/2002 8:06:37 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I think it is IMPERATIVE for people to speak English at work, the sole exception being businesses that cater strictly to a Spanish-speaking clientele...it wouldn't be a good idea to expect English-only at a Spanish language radio station.

My point, the one that I have been making since my arrival on the thread, is that the First Amendment to the constitution prevents the Feds from establishing an official language.

Period.

The secondary point being that given time, people will assimilate into the culture, but only if they are here legally. You can't both be marginalized and assimilate.

356 posted on 07/10/2002 8:16:15 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Joe Hadenuf
While I haven't addressed a single post to you, you decide to come here flinging unprovoked attacks, calling me a race-baiter, and telling me F-U, you just don't have the cojones to do it like a man, so you use Morse code instead.

That's because you are not one Joe. And the race-baiter here is you, you sorry ass bigot. No one is talking about race here, other than you and the rest of the Mexiphobes.

357 posted on 07/10/2002 8:26:23 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
BTW, why do you direct your comments strictly at Hispanics? Is it OK for other nationalities NOT to speak English after migrating here?
358 posted on 07/10/2002 8:28:28 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
My point, the one that I have been making since my arrival on the thread, is that the First Amendment to the constitution prevents the Feds from establishing an official language.

If I'm not mistaken the Founders did vote to make English the official language, beating out German or French by one vote. And it was a German immigrant?? who voted to keep it English (someone can correct me if I'm wrong). No, technically there isn't anything in the Constitution that specifically mandates an official language, but unofficially we all know English is.

As I have been saying since the beginning of this thread, if Congress would get immigration under control, we wouldn't be having these problems since the assimiliation process would work much better than it is now.

359 posted on 07/10/2002 8:30:57 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"...but unofficially we all know English is."

Get out of town!!! Really?

All this time I've been pissed off at JimRob for the lack of Spanish threads in the forum...and here I thought it was the software.

360 posted on 07/10/2002 8:34:35 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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