Consenting adults: No one likes flashing blue lights

http://www.louisville.com ^ | 07/06/2002 | SNITCH.COM

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Regardless of what the courts have decided, he said, police exist to investigate, stop and prevent crime.

Very Interesting

[dennis1x]

Im not a big fan of the current "hero" status the public seems to have given cops just because of 9/11 and the fact they wear a uniform. A good bit of them are on power trips and have settled for jobs as cops as a last resort. It takes a little more to be a hero than just your job title.

[Atlas Sneezed]

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"Lassiter says that when the police ask for license and registration, the motorist should respond, “Here you go officer, but I don’t consent.”"

Interesting.

[gcruse]

Well, Caleb (that is the author's name), if I lived in a city as prone to riot and murder as Cincinatti, I would thank the police for pushing the envelope as far as they can in trying to ensure a modicum of safety to the hapless residents.

[Illbay]

...drivers — innocent and guilty — alike consent to things even when they know that they are waiving their rights.

Sorry, but this sounds too much like making "victims" of people who make a free choice. I'm not excusing the cops; no one hates being "invaded" in this manner more than me, and I admit to a lifelong distrust of cops and their motives.

But fair's fair. If you KNOW your rights, and you choose to waive them because you don't want the hassle, or you don't want to waste the time, etc., then you've made an informed decision. Stop whining about it.

I seem to recall John Adams writing a letter to the citizens of one of the counties in New Jersey during the time that Washington's army was in retreat (this was before the battle of Trenton) before the emboldened British Army.

In essennce, now that the chips were down and it looked like REAL REDCOATS might be in the front yard, these folks were thinking of signing the loyalty pledge that Cornwallis was waving around with a promise they wouldn't be molested.

Adams basically said "you panty-waists. Why don't you act like MEN when the chips are down? So what if you're inconvenienced by Redcoats tearing up your farms, stealing your livestock and perhaps making refugees out of you. Isn't this what you knew would happen? We've got folks fighting and dying for the cause you are ready to abandon because you might get your hair mussed. Be men!"

Well, if you KNOW that you have these rights, and you DON'T choose to defend them in the face of a traffic cop, what good is your knowledge? How have you been "violated" when you didn't even put up a squeak?

[kennyo]

Or, in the case of a roadblock, police can pull you over for no reason at all...

Clearly a violation of the fourth amendment

But roadblocks generally seem to be constitutional, at least for drunk drivers.

Well,then,they should have roadblocks just for drunk drivers and leave the rest of us out of it.

But roadblocks generally seem to be constitutional, at least to drunk judges.

[VA Advogado]

Interesting article.

[Biblebelter]

I agree with you to a degree. My respect for police and firemen has not changed since 9/11, they are not nor have they ever been automatically heroes in my eyes. But the hero status you mention which is given by the public is not all that bad. The media would have us believe that heroes are themselves, along with movie stars, rock stars, and athletes, in that sense it has been refreshing to have the public revere someone a little closer to the common man than the aforementioned overpaid ninnies.

[VA Advogado]

Im not a big fan of the current "hero" status the public seems to have given cops just because of 9/11 and the fact they wear a uniform. A good bit of them are on power trips and have settled for jobs as cops as a last resort. It takes a little more to be a hero than just your job title.

You ungrateful little. . . .

[VA Advogado]

Clearly a violation of the fourth amendment

Sorry hero, its already been OK'd by the supreme court.

[VA Advogado]

That has been my experience as well.

Better respect that power or else you're likely to find yourself on the wrong end of a jail cell key hole.

[eastforker]

In Texas,you are not asked to take a breathalyzer untill you are arrested for DWI.Could a person demand to talk to his lawyer before submitting himself to a breathalyzer and avoid having his license suspended.You know,lawyers are hard to come by at 2 in the morning and by the time you do reach him you will probably be sober enough to pass the damn thing.

[VA Advogado]

I guess that means abortion is OK with you?

Its immoral and repulsive, but not unconstitutional.