Anti-Americans had me in tears on the Fourth of July

Daily Telegraph ^ | 07/06 | Julia Magnet

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...this is a country that fell apart and lost it when the most eligible babe in the country offed herself in a car wreck...

Stupidity like this makes me wonder whether FR needs an Idiotic Post Of The Day Award, to complement RJayne's 'Quote of the Week.'

You'd win a shelf of trophies, pronto.

[Alas Babylon!]

Ta, mate! You're right. It's a shame so many here believe the LEFT-WING media of Europe & Britain when they're so quick to dismiss similar rants by our own LEFT-WING media.

Folks, just because it's reported in the Guardian, or Daily Globe, or any of the other UK rags doesn't make it a reflection of the British people (or German or Australian or whatever) anymore than what Dan Rather says reflects OUR thinking.

I have been to the UK, Italy, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, and yes even France--as a GI--and the people I've befriended and been befriended by knew I was a GI--and have found them to be hard-working conservatives like so many here in the USA. Many have even thanked me for serving, remembering the sacrafices American fighting men have made for their own freedom. You really have to see it for yourself. Don't trust what the LEFT-WING media says, no matter what country their rags are written in.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

You know, you are right but there is an astonishingly vast amount of Europeans who are increasingly clueless about recent history. I saw a certain Dutch individual actually claim, after disparaging a certain American's education, or lack thereof, that 'after WWII, the US did *nothing* for Europe'...this was on usenet. This is horrifying in that this guy is not alone. All I can do is shake my head and wonder what a really great deal the KGB got when they infiltrated your press and institutions of higher learning.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

I am grateful for your help, as I have already said in earlier posts. I merely wish you and your countrymen would not try to take all the credit for beating the Germans in WWI and WWII.

True. One minor detail that seems to get lost in the shuffle, of the major combatants, only America and Britain, followed by Germany at the end, were fighting on more than one major front. The Russians, for all the credit the world wants to give them for beating the Nazis, didn't lift a finger to fight the Japanese. America took a major burden on itself to carry a heavy load on both fronts, it deserves some major props.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

You don't even know enough about the American Revolution to realise how important opposition in the British parliament was to its success.

Oh, ho ho...unfair, you're bringing nukes to a knife fight.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

And what about the old Americans of the WW2 days, Inkie? Do you think they would have rushed in for a free kick at Britain, on the word of some tabloid journalist? Or do you think they might have said, 'let's focus on our common enemy- socialism'?

Actually, you're right, but the chorus of anti-US sentiment in Britain as well as the Continent, is rising to such a fever pitch at the moment that we yanks deserve a moment or two to stick our middle finger right back at them, our idealogical mates on the other side of the pond excluded, of course. The Mirror used our recent national holiday to take a venemous stab at us, so screw the Mirror 'journalists' and the syphillus-infested whores that bore them.

[glockmeister40]

..if the best you can muster is personal attacks... It's not the 'best I can muster', bozo.

Again, more personal attacks. If you can't prove your argument, attack the person you're debating. We'll probably still have come to your rescue when the chinese beat up on you guys. And they will. It's just a matter of time. Since your socialist government took all your guns away, I doubt your country could protect a 'roo.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

Glockmeister, take a look at Babylon's post #202. He's been around the world, and has formed a view from personal experience. Whereas you occasionally watch The Crocodile Hunter.

Face facts : the real war is against liberalism and socialism, both of which know no geographical boundaries. There are gun grabbers in CA and MA worse than anything we have Downunder, let me tell you. My friendly suggestion to you is, forget all the crap you're being told about how all Brits/French /Aussies/everybody "hates the US." It's all lies, designed to divide us. As BobJ said in one of the first replies, "the media is the real enemy."

[David Hunter]

You know, you are right but there is an astonishingly vast amount of Europeans who are increasingly clueless about recent history.

The USA deserves the credit for finishing off the Soviet Union. I have no illusions that without America's help we British would be speaking Russian, but not German.

The Russians, for all the credit the world wants to give them for beating the Nazis, didn't lift a finger to fight the Japanese. America took a major burden on itself to carry a heavy load on both fronts, it deserves some major props.

The Soviets were a joke, they colluded with Hitler and then almost got finished off by him. Their methods of fighting were also so inefficient they lost many times the number of troops the NAZIs lost. They won because their population was so large they could afford to fight a war of attrition.

[David Hunter]

It occurs to me that in this hypothetical, you are conceding that Nazi Germany has overrun Europe and is now looking to expand across the Atlantic. Of course, it remains true in this situation that "you'd be speakin' German".

Yes, that's right, its a hypothetical situation. I never said that without the USA's help it would have happened.

I have no problem with you saying that without the USA's help we would be speaking Russian, but not German. Because without the atomic bomb, which was of course completed in the USA in 1945, there would have been a third World War.