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Anti-Americans had me in tears on the Fourth of July
Daily Telegraph ^ | 07/06 | Julia Magnet

Posted on 07/06/2002 8:59:49 AM PDT by ginle

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To: ginle
Britain is known for its disproportionate number of young soccer hooligans.
21 posted on 07/06/2002 10:00:41 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: ginle
My Australian nephew works in London for Goldman Sachs. He's 27. Wonder how he feels about it.

Sounds like this gal needs to get a new group of friends. These people have their heads up their arses.

22 posted on 07/06/2002 10:06:45 AM PDT by Inkie
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To: Bob J
The sad thing is that you could probably go to any prominent university in the USA and find the professors teaching their gullible students largely the same crap.
23 posted on 07/06/2002 10:08:21 AM PDT by Inkie
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To: ginle
I would cut these young Brits some slack as, like US youth, they often have little knowledge of events beyond thier own lives. The biased news there and here doesn't help.

My wife and I were in London when 9/11 happened and our flight home was delayed 3 days due to the airline shutdown.

We walked up to the American Embassy on the Friday after and were impressed by the flowers laid at the MacArthur statue in the square outside. There was a line blocks long of locals waiting to sign a condolence book to express their grief over the horrible event. The London folk we talked to were very sorry for us. One elderly lady said she was in the Blitz and 9/11 was just as bad. I told her thanks and both were bad, but London suffered the Blitz for years and at least we only had one awful day.

The fine behavior we saw the days in London after 9/11 make me feel most Brits are OK.
24 posted on 07/06/2002 10:12:24 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: ginle
What a sight: BA literature students, photographers, actors and people in the theatre - all British

Get a group of American lit students, photographers etc. together and you'll tend to find a huge amount of anti-Americanism, anti-Bushism and generally uninformed opinion, too.

25 posted on 07/06/2002 10:12:30 AM PDT by irv
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
The author sounds like a whiney apologist - instead of standing up and defending her homeland, she "politely" asks her friends why they hate America.

The author is probably a nice lady, and she seems to at least support our President. However, I agree that she is doing a pitiful job of defending the U.S.

I'm currently living in Greece, the most anti U.S. of all NATO countries. Individually, I like most Greeks and they like most Americans (isn't it always that way). However, my Greek co-workers know better than to trash the U.S., and particularly President Bush, around me. I used to respond diplomatically, but not anymore. If they accuse the U.S. of killing innocent people in Afghanistan I respond that we haven't even begun. When 1,000 Muslim extremists have been killed for each innocent person killed at the WTC, then we will have made a good start. I say that with deadly seriousness and it usually shuts them up. I always make sure that my vigorous defense of the U.S. includes some viscious (but true) barbs headed in their direction. It's easy when you have 3,000 years of history in which to find incidents shameful to Greeks. I don't need to go any earlier than the start of the 20th century, but I do just to keep things interesting. If I really want to hit below the belt I point out that one of their heroes, Alexander the Great, was a homicidal queer who didn't unite Greece, but rather conquered it.

I hear very few anti-American comments from my Greek friends these days. I wonder why.

26 posted on 07/06/2002 10:12:53 AM PDT by arm958
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To: ginle
Gee, these youths seem to forget that if America didn't save their grandparents' and great-grandparents' butts, they'd all be speaking German now. Or maybe Russian.

They are the descendants of the most oppressive empire since the Romans.

And pray tell, which countries have we enslaved?

The writer better grow a backbone. Otherwise, the sacrifice of those who gave their lives for the freedom the world enjoys now is diminished horribly.

27 posted on 07/06/2002 10:14:27 AM PDT by exit82
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To: RicocheT
The fine behavior we saw the days in London after 9/11 make me feel most Brits are OK.

We were in Ireland at the time and felt overwhelming sympathy and a strong sense of alliance with us. They recognize that America has been good to the Irish.

I think your equally positive experience in England, though, was probably provided courtesy of the older generation. The younger folks -- like so many worldwide -- are cynical and ill-informed. The western media can congratulate itself for a brainwashing job that Goebbels would have envied.

28 posted on 07/06/2002 10:19:57 AM PDT by Inkie
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To: arm958
I like your style! Thanks for responding. You prove my point, the author is probably very young, and doesn't have all the information she needs to even defend her positions - but her writing shows her immaturity by allowing her so-called friends to be so disrespectful to her.

I'm certainly proud that you don't allow such comments to go unanswered.

29 posted on 07/06/2002 10:20:18 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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For consideration:
The author of this writing is not an American. Notice the British spelling of words.
30 posted on 07/06/2002 10:26:29 AM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
The author sounds like a whiney apologist - instead of standing up and defending her homeland, she "politely" asks her friends why they hate America.......she provides a fertile atmosphere for the denegration of our President and the actions of our country, instead of encouraging actual discussion of differing opinions. She got exactly what she deserved for being such a wimp.......

She should have kicked their santimonious butts out the door instead of bowing down to them. Who needs friends like that? Those should just be mere acquaintances.

31 posted on 07/06/2002 10:27:23 AM PDT by SwatTeam
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To: ginle
He didn't exactly engineer it, but he wanted to go into Afghanistan because of their oil resources.

Have I missed something? Afganistan has oil ? I know we were thinking of putting a pipeline through the country but I didn't know they had oil.

32 posted on 07/06/2002 10:32:12 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: arm958
Good for you. I'm so jealous! I want to be in Greece. Where exactly in Greece are you?
33 posted on 07/06/2002 10:32:50 AM PDT by SwatTeam
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To: RicocheT
I would cut these young Brits some slack as, like US youth, they often have little knowledge of events beyond thier own lives. The biased news there and here doesn't help.

I would tend to agree with you. We live part of the year in Thailand where to people are inclined to like Americans. When we were last there this past May, some friends said we should move and live there full time. When I asked why, the said that they understood from the newspapers that the USA had bombed their own buildings to get support for a war to take over the Mideast oil. They went on to say that they had read that a French book proved this. I then described just what I saw on 9/11,12,13,14. They accepted what I had to say as they had always been suspicious of Islamic propaganda but thought the Europeans to be usually accurate.

Interesting that those most inclined to like USA are questioning us. The quotes from our own left wing press do not help.

34 posted on 07/06/2002 10:34:23 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: mountaineer
What is it about freedom that so frightens Europeans? It's like a massive case of contintent-wide arrested development, a bunch of children who want the government to be their mommies and daddies and take care of them forever.

What do you expect from a bunch of people who think that Page Three girls, politicians openly having mistresses, open homosexuality, and unlimited abortion are the formula for a free society? So many Europeans have their priorities screwy. They think that being able to see a pair of jugs on the telly is the height of freedom, while all the while, they are handing over their lives to the government.

35 posted on 07/06/2002 10:36:47 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: SwatTeam
Exactly.....
36 posted on 07/06/2002 10:37:09 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: ginle
First of all, sitting there blubbering like a baby is not going to make people respect you any more. In fact, it will lessen what little respect they had.

Second, why are you inviting these neanderthals with blood pudding for brains over?

37 posted on 07/06/2002 10:40:00 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Bob J
Our media has hyped him as stupid....The Media is the Real Enemy

Exactly correct. I live near the Canadian border. If you listen to the Canadian news it is more left-slanted than anything we have here, including NBC, ABC, SeeBS, CNN, PBS, NPR, Washinton Post, New York Times, or LA Times. I imagine the British are stuck with the same sad situation.

Also, don't forget the age of the people involved. The lack of knowledge and mindless repetition of left-spun "facts" in this country (much of it indoctrination at school and college) is scary.
38 posted on 07/06/2002 10:43:38 AM PDT by JayNorth
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To: ginle
Turning away from a conversation revolving around an Alabama-style chocolate cake that one of our friends had brought us,

What on Earth is an Alabama-style chocolate cake?!

I have a feeling that, normally, this gal writes those ubiquitous musings columns so prevalent among female columnists, detailing the events of her day, how hard it is to get a good seat on the bus/subway, why she can't find a good man who will do the dishes, scooping up her cat's poop, and on and on and on and on..............

39 posted on 07/06/2002 10:43:53 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: ginle
"You know, basically bin Laden is right." I began to cry. "America oppresses every other country, and really exploits them just to get richer and, you know, crushes them if they try to stand up for themselves. Bin Laden was telling America to mind its own business; it needed to be told."

Let's see if they like the tables turned, so to speak:

"You know, basically Adolph Hitler is right." I began to cry. "Great Britain oppresses every other country, and really exploits them just to get richer and, you know, crushes them if they try to stand up for themselves. Adolph Hitler was telling Great Britain to mind its own business; it needed to be told."

India conquered. Half of Africa subdued and Africans turned into slaves. Ireland conquered and the Irish massacred and trodden-upon. New Zealand Maoris slain. Australian Aborigines wiped out and all their lands stolen. The Carribean conquered; the local Indians wiped out and African slaves brought in to supply cheap labor so that members of Parliament and Lords could get rich. Constant war and meddling in European affairs. Yup, Great Britain deserved Hitler.

40 posted on 07/06/2002 10:44:27 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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