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Death of a continent (Aids crisis in Africa)
The Denver Post ^ | July 3, 2002 | Pius Kamau

Posted on 07/03/2002 12:43:11 PM PDT by Drew68

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It's hard to comprehend why our nation and people have remained indifferent for so long despite the evolving AIDS horror in Africa.

Save, perhaps that culling just such populations for national defense purposes of ready access to their resources is part and parcel of established U.S. population control efforts.

Africa's just past the saturation point and well in to depopulation thanks in no small part to brokers who distinguish between developed and under-developed nations where there's a question of "stability" in the fractionation batches.

41 posted on 07/03/2002 5:05:53 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Save, perhaps that culling just such populations for national defense purposes of ready access to their resources is part and parcel of established U.S. population control efforts.

It sounds like what you're saying is that America has purposefully committed genocide by "culling" the African population for purposes of grabbing their resources.

IS that what you're saying?

42 posted on 07/03/2002 6:00:15 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Militiaman7
Let's see, 20 million dead from AIDS, and still rampant starvation throughout most of the continent. Self rule???, hummm?
43 posted on 07/03/2002 8:30:27 PM PDT by TJFLSTRAT
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Does this mean we can stop sending them foreign "aid" and loaning them money that they never pay back?
44 posted on 07/03/2002 9:27:51 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: Askel5
I think Marxism and Europe are more to blame for Africa's problems than the US. We never had a colony there.
45 posted on 07/03/2002 9:42:47 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Hey wanna know how to stop aids in africa....

PUT THE CONDOM ON !!!

46 posted on 07/03/2002 9:49:08 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: Cachelot
It sounds like what you're saying is that America has purposefully committed genocide by "culling" the African population for purposes of grabbing their resources.

No, that's what Kissinger suggested would be a good idea. I'm merely repeating ad infinitum portions of the GOP's national defense policies on population control. Books such as Excessive Force, which I purchased at CPAC from Steven Mosher's table, also are a goldmine of information.

Sudan is an excellent example of the the more brutal connection of depopulation to resources which sounds so matter of fact when detailed in policy memoranda such as Carter's GLOBAL 2000 or the motherlode that is Kissinger's NSSM-200/NSDM-314:


Part One -- Analytical Section
--------    ------------------
Chapter I   World Demographic Trends
Chapter II  Population and World Food Supplies
Chapter III Minerals and Fuel

Rapid population growth is not in itself a major factor in pressure on depletable resources (fossil fuels and other minerals), since demand for them depends more on levels of industrial output than on numbers of people.

On the other hand, the world is increasingly dependent on mineral supplies from developing countries, and if rapid population frustrates their prospects for economic development and social progress, the resulting instability may undermine the conditions for expanded output and sustained flows of such resources.


Chapter IV  Economic Development and
            Population Growth
Chapter V   Implications of Population Pressures
            for National Security
Chapter VI  World Population Conference

Part Two -- Policy Recommendations
--------    ----------------------
Section I   A U.S. Global Population Strategy

Section II  Action to Create Conditions for Fertility De-
            cline: Population and a Development Assis-
            tance Strategy
A. General Strategy and Resource for A.I.D. Assistance
B. Functional Assistance Programs to Create Condi-
   tions for Fertility Decline
C. Food for Peace Program and Population

Section III International Organizations and other Mul-
            tilateral Population Programs
A. UN Organization and Specialized Agencies
B. Encouraging Private Organizations

Section IV  Provision and Development of Family
            Planning Services, Information and Tech-
            nology
A. Research to Improve Fertility Control Technology
B. Development of Low-Cost Delivery Systems
C. Utilization of Mass Media and Satellite Communi-
   cations System for Family Planning

Section V   Action to Develop Worldwide Political and
            Popular Commitment to Population Stability
While specific goals in this area are difficult to state, our aim should be for the world to achieve a replacement level of fertility, (a two-child family on the average), by about the year 2000 [emphasis added]. This will require the present 2 percent growth rate to decline to 1.7 percent within a decade and to 1.1 percent by 2000. Compared to the U.N medium projection, this goal would result in 500 million fewer people in 2000 and about 3 billion fewer in 2050. Attainment of this goal will require greatly intensified population programs [emphasis added]. A basis for developing national population growth control targets to achieve this world target is contained in the World Population Plan of Action.

30. The World Population Plan of Action is not self-enforcing and will require vigorous efforts by interested countries, U.N. agencies and other international bodies to make it effective. U.S. leadership is essential [emphasis added].

Just as Kissinger made no bones (give or take 40 million American unborn) about the fact that abortion was vital to the solution, I'm saying that the US makes no bones about what is and is not in our national interest. Bodies can float like logs out of a bloody Rwanda of blacks run amok which some badass Boy Scout troop could tame and it's an "internal civil conflict into which we cannot intervene". Milosevic allegedly slaughters a mere 40,000 (okay, so that was never proven) and we go in and bust up bridges, target civilian infrastructure and a substantial amount of Collateral Damage and it's a moral war because our almighty National Interests (or those of the Stakeholders, anyway) are on the line.

A bit unclear? Let Brzerzinski have a go:

CHARLIE ROSE: So, we say to the Tibetans, ``You know, we can't do it because we don't want to get into a big deal with China, a fight with China.''

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: That's right.

CHARLIE ROSE: ``They're too big and strong.''

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: That's right.

CHARLIE ROSE: We said with Chechnya, ``We can't do it because morality plays no issue here because, you know, we don't want to get into a big conflict with the Russians.''

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: That's right. That is unfortunately--

CHARLIE ROSE: And we say to the Africans, ``We don't have a big stake here. It's Africa. It's not Europe, and so -- therefore -- we can't get involved.''

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: And we can support the African states doing-- You're absolutely right, Charlie. That's exactly the reality.

CHARLIE ROSE: It's not very tidy, is it?

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: It isn't tidy. And reality isn't tidy. And look at our own society. Look at the presence of crime in certain parts of our cities. In certain parts of a city there's much less. In other parts of the city there is much more. In certain parts of the cities certain forms of conduct would not be tolerated in daylight. In certain parts of cities they are. Unfortunately you cannot deal with all of the problems of the world at the same time. But that's not an argument for doing nothing where you can.

CHARLIE ROSE: So, the Brezhnev principle becomes--I mean, the Brzezinski principle--

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: You're not the only one who has done this, Charlie.

CHARLIE ROSE: There is no Brezhnev-- The Brzezinski principle becomes, ``Do something where you can have an impact and where it most closely fits your national interest in terms of like people.''

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: Well, where morality, practicality and interest coincide, obviously it's more possible. And I think it's even obligatory.
And last but certainly not least, as a Bloodhound, I'm happy to direct you to the sorts of Private Corporations (given his stint in Western Africa, Connaught's Thomas Hecht is a steller example of Stakeholder in the proces) of whom Kissinger repeatedly speaks. These Private Concerns -- with the guidance of folks at Rockefeller's daughter's Synergos Institute in conjunction with the World Economic Forum and the Global Philanthropists Circle help direct the billions in pop-control foundation monies from Stakeholders like Baroness Lynda Chalker, Bill Gates, Buffet and Turner to the right Targets.

These folks not only underwrite the researchers and academics who rotate out of "public service" (e.g., the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation floating the likes of Piotrow at Johns Hopkins and Foege at the Carter (GLOBAL 2000) Center at Emory) they act as partners of a sort in conjunction with the US, UN, USAID and other agencies charged with managing the "healthcare mechanisms" by which targeted nations could best be fast-tracked toward acceptable reproduction rates. No question but what the argument can be made that the AIDS epidemic is a product of the Blood Industry. Follow the money, as is always the case with "healthcare mechanisms".

So, given the evidence of US objectives and means as detailed in NSSM-200/NSDM-314 and carried out to this day -- particularly the protection and continued funding of the exact pharmas responsible for the epidemic -- I do believe the case can be made that the average USAIDS report on the depopulation effects of AIDS on certain African nations may well be a measure of success after all.

Despite the patently obvious agenda of so many of its cohorts and partners, even UNFPA's a bit confused, it seems:

Tuesday October 19, 1999

UNFPA MEETING JOKES ABOUT AIDS HELPING DEPOPULATION IN AFRICA

NEW YORK, Oct 19 (LSN.ca) - The Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute reported Friday that at a briefing meeting of the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), participants joked that AIDS was helping to do the work of population control in Africa. During the meeting a representative from Marie Stopes International, one of the largest abortion providers in the world, asked jokingly what a "demographer's approach to AIDS and STDs is since they reduce life expectancy."

A demographer and former UNFPA representative, Jan Fransen, emphasized at the meeting that, "individual rights" should not be "at the centre of development." Rather, the major concern from Fransen's view must be the number of "people which the earth can hold in a sustainable way," which he declared to be between only 700 million and 1 billion individuals. By extension, it would seem that those of like mind with Fransen in the UN, must favour extraordinary social upheaval that would be required in order to reduce the world's population by five billion people from its current six billion.

But who can begrudge the abortionists a little gallows humor as they go about their Humanitarian work on behalf of the Living?

47 posted on 07/03/2002 9:51:15 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Kalashnikov_68
This author is blatantly biased and omits one critical fact in AIDS history: What country has put in more dollars and R&D than any other on the planet into HIV/AIDS research?

Answer: The United States

Were it not for Dr. Levy and the pioneering work he did in California in the eighties, and the host of other American funded NIH, CDC, and University researchers, we would be no further along than Gallo's co-discovery of the HIV virus. We certainly would not have the host of HIV drugs that now exist were it not for American dollars and R&D.

We've contributed more towards ending AIDS than any other country on the planet. And for this, the world still claims 'the US isn't pulling her fair share'.

48 posted on 07/03/2002 9:59:04 PM PDT by fogarty
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To: fogarty
And for this, the world still claims 'the US isn't pulling her fair share'.

And we should say, "Mavi ya ngombe!"

51 posted on 07/03/2002 11:14:34 PM PDT by thulldud
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52 posted on 07/04/2002 1:34:20 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Kalashnikov_68
Why is it Americas's responsibility to provide expensive drug therapy to the millions of Africans who have AIDS? AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease and is totally preventable. Is African culture so mean-spirited that it enjoys infecting itself with the AIDS virus?
53 posted on 07/04/2002 2:00:24 AM PDT by stripes1776
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To: Cachelot
"Oh, but they will try. And very probably make it worse. "

You're right, Cache. I don't know how I keep forgetting the "Liberal" mindset. They'll not only try. They'll do their best to force the rest of us to exhaust our resources on their mindless schemes, which easily predictably will never work, dragging us all down the Road to Hell with their oh-so-good intentions.

54 posted on 07/04/2002 5:53:53 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Kalashnikov_68; Askel5
If that guy is so concerned about his people, why doesn't he go home and try to help them!

It's not the American Taxpayers fault that some of our own people live lifestyles conducive to STDs, let alone be responsible for people clear across the ocean. I am sorry, but I have no Christian Charity in this bed of their own making.

cc: Askel5 ... Article FYI
55 posted on 07/04/2002 7:59:26 AM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: Mark Bahner
I'm not sure how accurate that page is. It was copied from another site, and I couldn't remember which site. I think I used a google cache to get it since the original site was no more. I'm surprised you found my site at all. If you know of any better source of information for those kinds of figures I would happily link them from my site.

Thanks,
P. Corquescant
The Dinner Party Death Squad
56 posted on 07/21/2002 5:58:49 PM PDT by etherdeath
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To: Tacis
Some of these poor, dying folks may have a legitimate claim that the selection process that took the ancestors of those living in Brooklyn while leaving the ancestors of those now living in Africa was discriminatory.

Hey "liberal" Tacis, are you proposing what I think you're proposing?

How does you spell R-E-P-A-R-A-T-I-O-N-S for the African-Africans? [;^)

57 posted on 07/21/2002 6:24:43 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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