The Facts of Life: Shattering the Myths of Darwinism. A Review.

New Statesman ^ | 28 August 1992 | Richard Dawkins

[lews]

Funny thing... I always thought Dawkins was slim.

[clamper1797]

You had better hopw that there really is no God ... cause if there is I would suspect YOU are the one who's going to be doing the explaining ... You and Khephra

[f.Christian]

I don't hope...

I've been through the mill a few times---

test runs!

[clamper1797]

Oh so you have been to heaven ... tell me is the beer cold .. are there any hot babes ... I love women with wings and harps. Are there bleachers to watch the eternal fire. Do heavens residents do the "wave" ????

[BMCDA]

Yeah, mom always made the best marshmallows but now that she's gone... Oh wait, she still does ;->

[far sider]

Hmm. I guess I'm not explaining it well. If you're an atheist, then you must belive that on the day you die whether it's tomorrow or fifty years from now.......... nothing.......forever.

All of the good things you did, all of the people you love, all the things you care about, everything that matters most to you.....from your point of view will cease to exist. Doesn't that haunt you? I think it would for me if I was an atheist.

[f.Christian]

People in line...hell---want ice water!

[clamper1797]

BUT I DO know what you mean by faith .. if it weren't for the leprecauns ... especially the ones riding the pink elephants ... I would have no chance at an Irish heaven ...I would spend an eternity in Irish hell ... no pubs ... no whiskey

[clamper1797]

I'd get thrown out for selling ice water ... always did want to meet Dantes though

[Khepera]

You guys always say stuff like that trying to scare us. You should know that, we know the truth because we have an actual relationship with God and you don't because, well, you don't.

[Woahhs]

I've not seen convincing evidence that Christianity is true, so I don't accept it as true. It's the same reason that I don't accept Hinduism, Wicca or Shintoism as true.

You've not seen evidence macro-evolution is true either, but you don't seem to have any problem accepting that. Is it any harder to believe in miracles than punctuated equalibrium? When did nature stop species from killing off the deviants in any population besides man?

[clamper1797]

I thing you would scare Charles Manson ... if you celled with him (which IMO is not a far reach) he would probably ask for another cell ... Manson speaking ... "Boy that guys is too nuts for me"

[gdani]

Hmm. I guess I'm not explaining it well. If you're an atheist, then you must belive that on the day you die whether it's tomorrow or fifty years from now.......... nothing.......forever.

All of the good things you did, all of the people you love, all the things you care about, everything that matters most to you.....from your point of view will cease to exist. Doesn't that haunt you? I think it would for me if I was an atheist.

It seems to me the three biggest questions/mysteries in life are how did we get here, why are we here, and what happens when we're gone.

I understand that for some people, religion offers great solace in "answering" (or diverting) these questions. For me personally, I don't think anyone has the answers - they are unknown (so I'm not an atheist, but agnostic).

I'm fine with the realization that I don't know. I hope there's an afterlife where I get to see old friends, relatives & pets yet the logical part of me asks why I should believe for a second that such a place exists?

[f.Christian]

I'm reformed too...permanently...signed-sealed-delivered!

[f.Christian]

Jeffrey Dahmer may be in Heaven...will you?

[Khepera]

See your problem is that you cannot see beyond the desires of the flesh. When in heaven, you do not have these desires and therefore, they will not be inportant to you. They may be important to you now but, you will not even think of them in the presence of God.

You will be filled with Joy and have no earthly desires. Your every need will be attended to.

I'm sorry I forgot, you may not be there. Well if you're not there then this will not be the experience you have.

[clamper1797]

You should know that, we know the truth because we have an actual relationship with God (after all HE"S the one who likes to hurt people) and you don't because, well, you don't.

You are right I have no relationship and would not have a relationship with a "God" under your definition. My God (and I do have one complete with his son and MY personal savior Jesus) doesn't hurt people nor does he "cast" a soul into an eternal hell for not believing in him. Ever here of Mythology? Perhaps You should look it up

[Junior]

Your every need will be attended to.

Sounds rather boring. In my version of the afterlife, the Almighty puts your butt to work.

[gdani]

You will be filled with Joy and have no earthly desires.

Huh? Heaven is starting to sound weirder & weirder....

[clamper1797]

Oh darn does that mean I can't watch Mom go up in flames. What kind of heaven is that?

I've really enjoyed you two "religious idiots ... zealots" today (you and khepra) Bin Laden would be proud. One would usually have to go to a circus or an insane asylum to see such rational.

But I will reiterate ... If heaven is populated by the likes of you two ... I'll take my chances elsewhere cause the other place has got to be better ... flames and all.