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Westerfield attorney's begin defense: Dusek STUNNED by Defense calling for Keith Stone. Barb next?
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| July 2, 2002
| Union Trib
Posted on 07/02/2002 6:10:56 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Jrabbit
During her testimony, I don't remember if it was at the PH or the trial, BVD described a trip to the mall with DVD and the two boys. She stated that she left DVD in the dressing room trying on the sparkly top while she went to another store, I think to pay for an item for one of the boys. I'm not entirely clear on the last part.
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:25:22 PM PDT
by
nycgal
To: UCANSEE2
Roaming uninvited into the MH, suffering a nosebleed, shedding hair, and leaving fingerprints in MH is just too convenient for the defense to be believed.
MH must have have been cleaned and bleached sufficiently to throw off the dogs. My proof is that they were thrown off.
To: nycgal
That's the incident I was referring to. Doesn't fit with BVD's assertion that she provides close supervision.
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:29:46 PM PDT
by
Jrabbit
To: luvbach1
The handler had the dogs LEASHED, which was not how they were trained to search. I don't trust anything they guy said, if he doesn't even know the search technique to be used with his own dogs.
To: luvbach1
There was NO bleach smell, and it was testified to by several people that the MH did not appear to have been recently cleaned or wiped down.
To: luvbach1
He didn't bleach/clean very well did he? Dust and hair and fingerprints everywhere. The dog sniffed the shovel. Danielle wasn't buried.
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:32:52 PM PDT
by
Jrabbit
To: UCANSEE2
Again, all they have proved is that she was in DW's MH sometime between the time she moved to Sabre Springs and that Saturday Morning. That is all. Oh, no, I forgot, they have proven that the police made a jillion mistakes in taking evidence, that they proved in testimony alsoThey have also proved that the people responsible for the care and safe keeping of Danielle were negligent, dope smoking, dirty dancing drunk, wife swapping, unfit parents.
To: Rheo
I heard only one account of Danielle selling W cookies. Still, she was merely acquainted.Ok, you have established that one of the boys crossed the street and the other had to be rescued. I know that is supposed to illustrate a lack of supervision of Danielle.But as you indicated, we don't know how often she was without supervision or whether she ever was without supervision. Swingers that the van Dams are notwithstanding, there is no evidence that they were other than good parents.
To: John Jamieson
Because there is no evidence against the others you mentioned.
To: Politicalmom
There was NO bleach smell, and it was testified to by several people that the MH did not appear to have been recently cleaned or wiped down.If the MH had been wiped down the prints would not have been found. It was also testified that the entire interior of the MH had not been dusted for prints.
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:39:24 PM PDT
by
nycgal
To: Politicalmom
A child climbing uninvited into a MH, bleeding, shedding hair, and leaving prints in the bedroom is unbelieveable.
To: luvbach1
I believe it indicates a pattern of non-supervision when a mother leaves her children alone not once, but TWICE in a single day.
To: luvbach1
Brenda in one of her accounts, stated the previous year cookie selling...that is when she saw that DW was renovating his kitchen....and why she asked to see it on this cookie sale day.
We already know she was without supervision on 2/1..she was left in a Mervyns dressing room while mom went to a different store to get the boys.
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:42:09 PM PDT
by
Rheo
To: luvbach1
Why should there be, their houses and cars and computers weren't searched. Brenda pointed to DW and the search was over on 2/4.
To: luvbach1
A child TOUCHING something is unbelievable?
A child leaving a SINGLE hair is unbelievable? (It was testified to that a person loses between 100-200 hairs a day on average, I believe.)
It is not unbelievable that a child would bleed, when it has been testified to that she had FREQUENT nosebleeds.
To: luvbach1
At this point, we don't know if she went into the MH uninvited....DW's girlfriends kids, that lived with him, could have invited her in......that is yet to be seen.
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:44:07 PM PDT
by
Rheo
To: Politicalmom
I've got another question....why did the prosecution not request that the two dark hairs (assuming DW's as not stated) be run thru the offender database?
He is their child raping/killing suspect and they don't do this?
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:46:59 PM PDT
by
Rheo
To: BunnySlippers
In my opinion, he is a molester. I am exercising my right as an American citizen to have an opinion ... only that.. But I have not yet heard the proof that I hear exists about other suspects. That is still a myth. Really? How about the unidentified prints in the van Dam house? To whom do they belong?
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:47:19 PM PDT
by
It's me
To: UCANSEE2
I am watching some TV of the trial but I don't watch it that much. I never purported to know all that went on in court. I thought I made it clear that I am forming my opinions on all I have gleaned about the case, from whatever source, both in and out of court. That includes what Brenda van Dam has said, whether you dismiss it as a lie or not. I am not a lawyer nor am I trying to be one. And apparently it needs to be said again, this is not a court of law.
To: sbnsd
We were hacked,I know I have child- beast -and -whatever and I know that I can not get rid of it off our hard drive and our site is-for kids -
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posted on
07/02/2002 10:51:58 PM PDT
by
fatima
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