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Walk Into the Office Of Judicial Watch...
The National Journal ^ | June 29, 2002 | Louis Jacobson

Posted on 07/01/2002 5:27:45 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist

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To: Howlin
Why is it okay for Larry to be seen in public with John Aschroft, a man he has accused of dropping the ball on the Clintons, but it's not okay for the Bushes to attend an event that has been an inauguration day tradition for YEARS????

Larry can do know wrong in the eyes of the Koolaid Watch crew.

841 posted on 07/02/2002 2:45:36 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
bump for Tom Flocco
842 posted on 07/02/2002 2:49:57 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tom Flocco
ping
843 posted on 07/02/2002 2:50:43 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Miss Marple; FreedominJesusChrist
This almost reminds me of someone who claimed that the Old Testament was wrong because the Levitical laws classed bats in with birds. Anyway, here's the dictionary definition:

1. Any organism of the kingdom Animalia, distinguished from plants by certain typical characteristics, such as the power of locomotion, fixed structure and limited growth, and nonphotosynthetic metabolism.

2. Any such organism other than a human being; especially a mammal.

3. A person of inhuman character or bearing; someone who is bestial or brutish. ...
844 posted on 07/02/2002 3:52:14 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage
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To: Howlin
And I'm sure it does suit you for Laura Bush to make a fool out of herself to satisfy your agenda.

Believe me - I'd have loved for Laura Bush to NOT have made a fool of herself. THAT would have furthered my "agenda."

As for Klayman - yuo may be right, but I'm taking a third look at him now, and beginning to think I finally undersatnd what the heck he's doing. Time will tell, as in all things.

845 posted on 07/02/2002 4:13:02 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: A.J.Armitage; Miss Marple
Okay, but human beings are not animals.
846 posted on 07/02/2002 4:21:15 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: agrandis
Howlin isn't right about Klayman.
847 posted on 07/02/2002 4:21:40 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: VA Advogado
"Larry can do know wrong in the eyes of the Koolaid Watch crew."

?

848 posted on 07/02/2002 4:22:19 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Depends on your definition of "animal" which can be both scientific or vernacular. Are humamn beings "animals" in the sense that they are living organisms which move and reproduce? Yes. Are they "animals" in the sense that they have no motivation higher than basic instincts? No.
849 posted on 07/02/2002 4:24:08 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
You spelled my name wrong.

"Becky, do not atttempt to argue science, please. This is a scientific classifiction, and if you will READ the definition it speaks of certain characteristics which define a primate, including highly developed brains and forward looking eyes. As far as I know the Bible doesn't require me to check basic scientific knowledge at the door."

You must be one of those Christians who believes in micro-evolution, which is pure junk science. This same organization most likely also defines the beginning of actual human life differently than we do too and also appears to espouse evolutionary theories. What's your point? They are human and thus, not all of their really, unproven assumptions can be correct.

Of course some animals are more intelligent than others, that fact is obvious. Monkeys and dogs are more intelligent than deer and sheep, but that doesn't put them in the same category as human beings. Your reference to chucking basic science out of the door also reminds me of those Christians who do not take the Bible as a literal and verbally inspired document either. That scientific definition you posted was already in err, because those who wrote it believed in both Macro and Micro evolution, despite the fact that there are still millions of missing links that they have yet to find in order to truly prove their theory. Hence, since they assumed that because human beings are "animals" and similiar to apes, they thus classified them in the same category in the animal kingdom. This definition is wrong simply because its basic definition of human being and animal is erroneous.

"This definition says nothing about the soul, salvation, or the actions of God in the affairs of men. It simply describes the characteristics of a certain group of animals, men being members of that group."

Of course it doesn't, because the people who wrote this were evolutionists, concerned with only the empirical.

"That God created men to be custodians of the rest in not discussed here. Discounting the definition as something that "most Bible believing Christians" wouldn't accept is spacious and irrelevant."

Yes it is relevant, especially when these scientists make claims that directly contradict what the Bible says. Despite what they espouse as the absolute truth, their theory is still just a theory.

I recommend the book, Intelligent Design to you.

850 posted on 07/02/2002 4:39:05 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Okay, but human beings are not animals.

Then they must be a vegetable or a mineral.

851 posted on 07/02/2002 4:41:35 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
God created human beings in His image and set human beings over the animal kingdom.
852 posted on 07/02/2002 4:43:38 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Miss Marple
"Are humamn beings "animals" in the sense that they are living organisms which move and reproduce?"

You are referring to multi-cellular organisms right?

853 posted on 07/02/2002 4:53:17 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Something hit me as I read this article, and I am seeing JW in a new light. I had a conversation today with someone "in the know" that strengthens my belief that Klayman is all right after all.

At the very least, he is the wrong target for so much anger.

854 posted on 07/02/2002 4:57:02 PM PDT by agrandis
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
You must be one of those college students who thinks she can interpret everyone's faith and intellect by intuition.

I am a born again Christian and hold a degree in geology. Science and the Bible reinforce each other, they are not contradictive. God does not require us to be ignorant.

855 posted on 07/02/2002 5:12:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: agrandis
For the Freepers that I see posting on this thread, including myself, those who take issue with Larry Klayman mostly see him as an object of derision, not anger. Tempers flare between LK supporters and non-supporters, but that's not anger at LK.
856 posted on 07/02/2002 5:15:41 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
I think you hit the nail on the head.
857 posted on 07/02/2002 5:21:11 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Miss Marple
YAWN.
858 posted on 07/02/2002 6:14:22 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Clara Lou
"Tempers flare between LK supporters and non-supporters, but that's not anger at LK."

If you guys would stop your personal attacks on Larry Klayman and JW, we wouldn't have so much of a problem with you.

859 posted on 07/02/2002 6:15:55 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Miss Marple
I am just curious? Do you believe in Evolution at all?
860 posted on 07/02/2002 6:17:56 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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