Dog meat hot among Korea and China's trendy young

The Straights Times ^ | 30 June 2002 | Ng Hui Hui

[FormerLurker]

Tiger urine cures arthritis. Some zoo employees sell tiger urine secretly in China.

How much would you like to bet that not much if any of that urine is from a tiger?

[El Gato]

Said Mr Ng of Acres, an Asia Link member: 'The Koreans say eating dog meat is part of their culture, but one cannot use culture to justify violence.'

Oh I don't know, the Arabists, Islamists and their apolligists do it all the time.

[El Gato]

Look for them to invade siberia and the middle east

Maybe they'll eat up all the camels and of course the goats, leaving the native males with no outlet for their sexuality.

[Lake]

>>How much would you like to bet that not much if any of that urine is from a tiger?

Well, they sell it at the price equivilant to that of liqor, so I don't think they cheat. BTW, people bring dogs to the market to test if it's real. If the dogs refuse to get close, it must be tiger urine. Tiger urine has the strongest "male or positive" nature, great for arthritis.

[Khurkris]

Interesting hypothesis, but in Korea, family pets are just as common as here. And they are as loved and wel-cared for as here in USA. There is a distinct seperation of 'pets' and 'food animals' made.

I have eaten dog, and a lot of other 'mystery meat' and can only say one thing - I ate it and have no regrets. It has not lessened my love or appreciation of animals. And if it came down to it; if I died and my animals needed food, heck..Munch away lads!

Its no use to me anymore...lol.

[FormerLurker]

Tiger urine cures arthritis.

BTW, from what I've read, it's tiger bones that are used to cure arthritis...

From Tigers

All of these tigers suffer from the same dilema. Their habitat is being rapidly destroyed by man, and they are being killed by poachers for their fur and all other body parts. Many chinese people believe the testicles of these animals made into a soup will help their own sexual drive. Crushed tiger bones are suppose to help heal arthritis and other ailments. The list goes on with how they have used this magnificant animal for their own selfish beliefs. The chinese government has recognized this problem, and have several private breeding facilities to preserve their existance. Although we have found that some of these are just breeding farms, and when the cats are large enough, they are killed and their body parts from head to toe are then sold to the black market all over the world.

[Lake]

>>some of these are just breeding farms, and when the cats are large enough, they are killed and their body parts from head to toe are then sold to the black market all over the world.

That's not no longer the case in China today. Those breeding farms are going bankrupt and they even can't sell carcass of dead tigers to make ends meet because the Chinese law now prohibits any tiger sale whatsoever. Tigers bones? In your dream. Two brothers were sentenced 10 years in prison for selling a tiger skin which had been in their family for generations.

[FormerLurker]

Tigers bones? In your dream. Two brothers were sentenced 10 years in prison for selling a tiger skin which had been in their family for generations.

From Chinese Medicine: Making No Bones About It

For this reason, the American College of Traditional Chinese Medicine in San Francisco is joining with the World Wild Fund for Nature in a worldwide education campaign targeting the traditional Chinese medical community. The aim of the campaign is to educate the community on the need to end the use of tiger bone, and of acceptable substitutes. The campaign intends to recruit respected leaders in the community to get the message across. The use of tiger bone has been specifically targeted as there are very few tigers left in the wild and the appetite for tiger bone remedies is considered one of the greatest threats to the remaining population.

[FormerLurker]

Tigers bones? In your dream.

Next, we have this list of "remedies"..

From THEY USE EVERYTHING BUT THE CAT'S MEOW

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Rx Tiger: a veritable cure-all
# Eyeballs: roll into pills; a sure cure for convulsions.
# Brain: mix with oil. Rub on body to cure laziness and acne.
# Whiskers: use as a charm to give courage and immunize against bullets.
# Claw: carry in pocket or wear as an amulet; gives wearer courage, protects from sudden fright.
# Heart: eat to aquire strength, courage and cunning.
# Floating ribs: carry as a good-luck talisman.
# Gallstone: add honey to cure abcesses of hands and feet.
# Penis: use as an aphrodisiac.
#Bone: add to wine; an old Taiwanese genral tonic.
# Feet: remove small bones and tie them to a child's wrists; prevents convulsions.
# Tail: grind and mix with soap; apply as ointment for skin diseases. Use bones from tip to ward off evil.
# Skin: sit on tiger skin rug to cure fevers caused by ghosts. Caution-if used too often, patient may turn into a tiger!
# Hair: burn to drive away centipedes.

[FormerLurker]

That's not no longer the case in China today.

Perhaps not today, but just a few years back they were serving "Stir Fried Bengal Tiger: Cantonese Style."

From Japan network mauled over tiger-meat gourmet show

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July 1998

Japan network mauled over tiger-meat gourmet show

TOKYO, July 10 (Reuters) - A leading Japanese television network provoked outrage on Friday for showing its entertainers eating and enjoying tiger meat in a cooking programme filmed in China. A spokeswoman for the Worldwide Fund for Nature said the Fuji Television programme, part of a series entitled "World Super Deluxe Rare Cuisine", set a terrible example for viewers.

In Thursday night's programme, three Japanese entertainment personalities shown dining on the tiger at a restaurant in Shanghai, described the meal as delicious and showed no remorse when they learned what they were eating. Newspaper television listings for the programme had said the featured dish would be "Stir Fried Bengal Tiger: Cantonese Style."

A spokesman for Fuji TV said the Bengal tiger used in the meal died a year ago in a fight with other tigers in a zoo in Shanghai. It had been been frozen since then, he said. After a first course of buffalo penis, which the entertainers said they also enjoyed, the two women and a man were given a blind tasting of a braised meat dish and asked to guess what it was. A live Bengal tiger, which is on the world's endangered species list, was led into the dining room by way of answer. "Today we partook of something really delicious," said one of the three entertainers, who gathered round the live tiger to pat it after their meal.

Fuji TV denied that eating the tiger meat violated a global treaty that protects endangered species. The Worldwide Fund for Nature said in a report earlier this year that there were only about 5,000 to 7,500 tigers left in the wild, mainly in national parks and protected areas. After the network was bombarded with viewer complaints and media inquiries and animal rights groups denounced the programme, Fuji TV issued a statement that fell short of a full apology.

"We don't believe this programme violated the Washington Treaty which prohibits international trade in endangered species," the statement said. "However, the programme was careless from the broader perspective of animal protection, and we will endeavour from here on to pay due attention to the prevention of cruelty to animals in our programming." Fuji TV public relations spokesman Hideaki Hirose told Reuters: "In ancient China, tiger meat was eaten as an elixir for longevity and we re-enacted that custom." He added: "I guess we were pushing the envelope on this."

The Worldwide Fund for Nature said there was no excuse. "Even if the tiger died in the zoo, this kind of programme shows a low awareness among Japanese of the plight of endangered species and sets a terrible example for viewers," a fund spokeswoman told Reuters. Japan's alleged lack of sensitivity over such issues is not new. Even though whaling is allowed under international agreement generally only for research purposes, whale meat can easily be found in Japanese restaurants. Raw fish, or sashimi, is also shown at some high-class restaurants to be absolutely fresh by virtue of the fact that it is carved up while still alive on the table. "This isn't just about tigers, it's about public awareness, and that's a real problem in Japan," the fund spokeswoman said. She said Japan often turned a blind eye to the import of rare animal products such as tiger bones and rhinoceros horns, which are ground into powder and sold as aphrodisiacs.

Fuji TV is Japan's leading network by revenue, taking in about $3 billion last year. Cuisine shows, including one called "Iron Chef", are also among its most-watched programmes. The three diners were Kenichi Mikawa, who frequently appears on gourmet travel shows, Tomomi Nishimura, a popular actress, and Midori Utsumi, a well-known TV personality.

[Lake]

I have told you China has already prohibited the use or sale of anything from a tiger. Just a few months ago a circus troupe was busted by police after the owner tried to sell the carcass of a tiger that died of desease. A timber worker was attacked and killed by a siberian tiger in Heilongjiang province while the forest troopers were unable to rescue him because the law didn't say the troopers are allowed to shoot the tiger with their AK47s in self-defense. The family members of the victum are now asking for the government compensation, but the government says they have done everything that the law allows them to do and what they have not done is not permitted by law.

[4Freedom]

Some crazy zoo employees are collecting tiger urine. Now, that's a mental picture I didn't need.

I've seen a guy, in a zoo keeper's uniform, with no arms and about 10,000 stitches in his face. He must have been one of that zoo's tiger urine collectors.

LOL!

[biffalobull]

Plus the carcasses of dead dogs and cats that had been skinned were hanging by meathooks. It was amazing.

I understand that woking the dog is a national pastime in China.

[FormerLurker]

Now, that's a mental picture I didn't need.

Like I said earlier, I somehow question the notion that these zoo keepers are sending them urine collected from a tiger, and whether that's REALLY tiger's urine they're bathing in and drinking.. :)

[Lake]

>>just a few years back they were serving "Stir Fried Bengal Tiger: Cantonese Style."

That might be true, but the tiger meat must have been smuggled into China from other countries. I believe today you still can find tiger meat in Guangdong if you try really hard and are willing to take the risk of staying in jail for a few years and pay $5000 in fine.

[biffalobull]

In Thailand, honeybees are served with eggs.

Why are people so digusted with eating dog meat. The same people will eat what an insect regurgitates, and it is called honey

[FormerLurker]

Why are people so digusted with eating dog meat.

Although St. Bernard is not my idea of good eating, my biggest problem with all of this is that they torture the animal to death to improve its "power as an aphrodisiac", which is the predominent reason they eat dog over there to begin with.

[Lake]

>>in a zoo keeper's uniform, with no arms and about 10,000 stitches in his face.

You definitely don't know the tiger urine collecting business. you don't ask a tiger to urinate. You have to wait for it. Tigers have weid behaviors before they urinate. They turn their rears to visitors or whoever the human beings are and raise their tails. That tells you it going to come. They shoot urine like a dart, extremely smelly. The collectors use something like a sponge sheet to receive the urine. You dont have to go into the cage, so there is no way you will get hurt.

[FormerLurker]

That might be true, but the tiger meat must have been smuggled into China from other countries.

Actually, if you go back and read the news item, it was stated that the animal "had died in a fight with other tigers in a zoo in Shanghai". How true that is would be anyone's guess..

[Lake]

>>it was stated that the animal "had died in a fight with other tigers in a zoo in Shanghai".

I don't think it's true. Shanghai Zoo is a government-sponsored institution. I don't think the zoo would take that risk unless they were nuts. Also there are many interantional cooperation programs going on in the zoo. The money they could receive from selling a dead tiger is a hair on a buffalo, compared with the funding from the government and world organizations.