Dog meat hot among Korea and China's trendy young

The Straights Times ^ | 30 June 2002 | Ng Hui Hui

[HairOfTheDog]

Scientists working on the farms began hiding their favorite cows when the truck came to take them to market.

That makes me chuckle... thanks :~D

[A.J.Armitage]

Dogs are usually strung up by their necks and beaten repeatedly to increase the flow of adrenaline in their flesh. Consumers believe the more pain the animals suffer, the more tender the meat becomes.

I was supporting the dog-eaters until this. That's just wrong. Assuming it isn't sensationalist BS, that is.

[A.J.Armitage]

There's the difference. That's why the people of the far eastern cultures can't thrive without large infusions of cash and assistance from the West.

China was the most advanced civilization in the world and sent out explorer fleets to Africa and elsewhere. Then they stopped, on the edge of doing what Europe did later, including to China itself. Kinda like how we stopped serious space expeditions.

[FreedomFriend]

Asian peoples diets are truly strange.

[A.J.Armitage]

Korea has some fine looking women.

This is true.

[FreedomFriend]

I wonder if the Mongolian Beef in Chinese restaurants is actually dog. What about the Hunan Beef?

[Lake]

>>I wonder if the Mongolian Beef in Chinese restaurants is actually dog.

In your dream. Don't expect to have dog meat at beef's prices unless the restaurant owner is nuts.

[A.J.Armitage]

And don't for get the famous case of Kitty Genovese, who was stabbed to death in an attack that lasted over a half an hour while 38 people listened, but no one called for help until 20 minutes after she died. The police arrived 2 minutes later.

I remember reading that when someone actually went to go interview those people, most of them thought that with so many people around, someone must have already called the police. So it wasn't inhumanity, it was buck-passing.

If you were going to be consistent, you'd have to oppose eating any mammals. Another argument I really don't get is the "it violates trust" argument. If dogs in general truested humans in general, what good would guard dogs be?

[jwh_Denver]

The Koreans eat some garbage on a regular basis that makes a overflowing Port-a-Let smell good.

[Tennessee_Bob]

Assuming it isn't sensationalist BS, that is.

It may or may not be. I never saw it when I was in Korea. And yes, I ate dog while I was there.

[csvset]

the thought only detests you

Uhm, sport, I didn't say it detested me.

While you're at it, what are the winning numbers for the next Lotto drawing?

Now get off your high horse.

The French eat horse, btw, but I'm sure you knew that too.

[Double Tap]

I find the post on this subject interesting, as are my own emotions on it. Those that have read my post in the past know that I have no reservation about killing feral dogs and cats. I am also a hunter, and have killed many animals for meat and sport.

What I find most interesting is the arrogance of those that post that dogs or other animals have no emotions or feelings. Having been a dog owner most of my life, I can only remember about 6 years in my life where there wasn't a dog or cat around as a pet.

I can say with some authority that dogs especially do have emotions. And I can also say that if a dog is raised with respect and caring, it will be very loyal and protective. To the point of giving it's life for you. They express saddness, guilt, fear, rage and happiness regularly.

I have watch my dogs place themselve between my wife and any danger they thought was near. They do it without thought of danger to themselves. My little Boston Terrier will do everything in his power to stop an arguement between my wife and I. He will get between us and whine and act up to draw attention, and is always happy when the anger is past.

Just a few thoughts of my own, but I do think that dogs and humans have a different link than other animals and humans. IMHO.

[SandfleaCSC]

Difference is that a dog is a COMPANION, not a food animal. They have been bred for thousands of years to make them useful, loyal, and intelligent. Come over to my house one day, watch how my bulldog stays at my little brother's side when he visits and shepards him around the yard and house. I refuse to spout that foolish PC line "its just their culture". Bull, its sick and depraved and I have NO respect for any culture that condones it.

[Tennessee_Bob]

Hard to figure out? Hmmmm...let's see

A food source is a food source. If they want to eat dogs, that's fine. If they want to eat cats, that's fine. If they want to eat horse, that's fine as well. A food source is a food source. A dog is a dog, a cat is a cat, a horse is a horse, a fish is a fish.

As much as I loved my dog, if it had come down to it, I would have eaten her rather than starve to death.

I've eaten fish that I've caught, squirrel that I've killed, venison, elk, dog, and yes, I've eaten horse as well (the beef supplier for the west coast military bases got busted for selling horse rather than beef).

Given the choice - does your family starve, or do you live off your animals?

[Lake]

>>It may or may not be. I never saw it when I was in Korea.

Actually the article is kind of exaggerating. There are many ways of slaughtering dogs, but the most common way is to give a blow on the nose of a dog, or pumping water into the nose, which kills the dog in no more than a minute.

[HairOfTheDog]

Given the choice - does your family starve, or do you live off your animals?

It's too obtuse of an idea. I can't imagine being in a situation with that choice... An awful lot needs to go wrong for that to be a foreseeable scenario... so the point is moot.

I would have little difficulty buying a steer to raise for beef... But I see a clear difference in the relationship a steer would come to expect from me. My trouble with maltreatment of pet animals is in the breach of trust, as I said. Other predators don't lie to their prey to make them easier to handle when you go to kill them.

[GBA]

There is certainly some truth to what you say about consistency with regard to eating mammals. I'd like to believe that intelligence plays a factor in my own culinary choices. To me, a pig's eyes are very human-like and that always freaks me out. Horses are a lot like dogs in their symbiotic relationship with humans. However, cows don't seem to have the brains to stay off of my grill. And deer don't seem to have the brains to stay out of my garden. I admit that there is some contradiction there. I'm still working on the whole contemplated life idea, so thanks for giving me something more to think about! I'm having fish for supper, though. ;)

As to Kitty Genovese, social psychologists suggest that "diffusion of responsibility" could play a part, that is, each person believed that someone else was going to help: excatly as you say. There are many, many factors that influence a person's decision to help someone, such as perceived need, the belief that they can help and are in a position to do so, the belief that they'll be held accountable, and even such factors as temperature and weather play a part.

[Lake]

>>Difference is that a dog is a COMPANION, not a food animal.

The diffrence is those dogs on the market are raised as food animals not as companions in the first place.

[Lake]

>>My trouble with maltreatment of pet animals is in the breach of trust

There is no TRUST to build in dog farms.

[Lake]