The Coming Attack

www.jrnyquist.com | June 24, 2002 | J. R. Nyquist

[11B3]

Post 30 is correct - if there's a dark cloud to be found Mr Nyquist has the foil to find it.

[Washington-Husky]

Far be it from me to call myself an expert on such matters, but, (and I say this with a big "but"), it seems that it shouldn't be too hard to test each and every ship and plane and truckload that enters our country from a foreign point of origin, with simple test equipment that could detect radiation being emitted from any sort of nuke device, or even biological or chemical devices.

Again, I'm not an expert... but, if the government would put me to work, I would gladly climb aboard each and every ship that stops in Seattle with said test equipment, and run tests on all cargo, and all spaces, contained in that ship. Heck, I'm sure lots of other guys and gals would be willing to volunteer their time to do just that! So I don't see why a lot of this terrorism threat can't easily be countered. Just put the right people to work at all the obvious border points, with the right test equipment...

[tall_tex]

I agree, with your statements, they have would have used their weapons of mass distruction, if they had them, DC would be history.

They want get our attention, they would do the sucide bomber thing. Of course they will. Tom

[Semper911]

Nyquist writes this stuff because he wants to see it turn into a 500 post thread here on FR. It was an interesting commentary, but nothing more than a letter to the editor type thing. (Although I hadn't heard about the stopwatches.)

So here's my contribution to the 500...

[tall_tex]

Since I live in central Texas, beating the snot out of arabs taking pictures of the ocean takes a really great long range lens, is probably out of the question. Of course your request is a long reach also..

[SamAdams76]

This is an alarmist article very similar to those that appeared in the waning days of 1999 (remember Y2K?). I think that 9/11 was the terrorists best shot and if they had weapons of mass destruction, they certainly would have used them by now. But should they in the future obtain and use such weapons against us, one can safely assume that the U.S. response will be massive and mostly likely nuclear. You can bet that the U.S. military already has planned responses to virtually any future terrorist attack. Unlike 9/11, retribution will be swift and deadly. Perhaps this is the reason we haven't had any terrorist attacks since 9/11.

[Washington-Husky]

Yes, even without those dreaded WMD they can still wreak havoc, but I'm not going to change too much of my lifestyle because of this threat... it's scary enough in America as it is, what with the assorted native crazies we have to contend with who go berserk and waste people and property.

(I'm going to go to the Seattle 4th of July fireworks display just the same, I'll probably just keep myself a little further away from the crowded throngs more than I normally do, and have a good time to boot....)

[I_Love_My_Husband]

thanks for the ping PW...and I'm sufficiently scared..., but also...trying to be calm..

[tall_tex]

Just keep sticking your head in the sand, that is just why the World Trade Centers Twin Towers, no longer exist... Tom

[Teacher317]

One major step to stopping a worse attack is getting rid of the PC mentality that has taken over the U.S. Unfortunately, I doubt that will happen.
It will happen right after the big attack.

We would have said the same thing 09-10-01. Somehow, even the loss of the Twin Towers, the attack on the Pentagon, the attempted destruction of the White House, 3000 murdered innocent souls, dozens of televised cases of Americans who had to choose between jumping to their death or burning to death, and the "promise" of further attacks didn't cure the disease of PC mentality. I agree with inflorida... I'm not sure anything ever will or could cure it. "The patient is terminal, doctor."

[Jorge]

You also assume the epdemic does not spread to parts of the world where it cannot be controlled through quarantines.

In that case we are no longer talking about "millions" of casualties in the U.S. which pretty much makes the poster's original point.
Besides, the idea that the epidemic would spread to other parts of the world much less prepared to deal with it than the U.S. especially third world nations, makes it less likely it would be the attack of choice.

[Don Joe]

" Do we wipe the middle-east from the face of the earth? We would have done that to the USSR."

For all its incalculable evils, the USSR was a "civilized" enemy, and culturally not too far removed from the US. (Closer, in fact, than Western Europe has proven to be.)

Now, here's something to consider: the cold war was expensive, very expensive. And protracted. However, the upside is that it kept us on our toes, and motivated us to build and maintain the strongest military in the world.

So if not for the cold war, we'd be in far worse shape today to deal with terrorists. And regardless of anything else, we'd still have them to deal with. They're a modern day counterpart to the Barbary Pirates (and the islamist rulers who were targetted by the Crusades). Only now, they're living in a world where the stakes are much higher, thanks to the cat being out of the bag with respect to technology.

Finally, the USSR was destined to collapse from its inception, because communism is flawed at its root. There's hope of a bright future for the US and Russia, as the latter joins the West (even as the rest of the Western nations seem to be leaving it wholesale).

[tall_tex]

You nailed it... Not much left to say.. Sheep lead to slaughter. Not me Lock and Load.. Tom

[tall_tex]

What kind of credability does he bring to the table. Inquiring minds want to know. Tom

[RasterMaster]

Looks like there's a run on REYNOLDS WRAP!

[gg188]

Furthermore, the successful use of such weapons against seven U.S. cities might collapse the U.S. economy, discredit the U.S. government and demoralize the American people. Such an attack would also make good on the terrorist promise that the U.S. dollar will become absolutely worthless in short order.

If you look at the enormous economic cost resulting from 9/11 and 3,000 deaths---it would hardly take 7 cities x millions of deaths to collapse the U.S. and world economy. It would take a fraction of that to destabalize the globe and send the world into a second dark age (courtesy of the people who brought us the FIRST dark age.)

My fear is that history will be the story of how the USA failed after 9/11 to take the threat of the cult of islam seriously, and the nation and all civlization paid the price (just as history for the last 1 and 1/2 millenia tells the story of the failure of civlized people to deal with the savages on an unrelenting jihad that can end only with our deaths.)

I fear we will look back and realize---too late---what the HELL were we thinking when we were quibbling over "profiling" and torqued about "diversity" yadayada, when we could have been taking decisive action.

Perhaps THEN, after this next attack, we will have the will to go after Mecca, for example. But our children and grandchildren will cry for decades, why, oh why, did we not take both punitive and pre-emptive action both abroad and at home in the days, weeks and months following 9/11?

[gg188]

I've heard this same story too many times for this not to be happening-group of Middle Easterners taking pictures of city/industrial site and no one questioning them. Is as if the police/investigative personnel are afraid due to PC brainwashing to put their careers on the line to do their duty.

The problem, according to the opinion-makers and cognescenti, is people like Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith, people pledging allegiance to the USA, and doing other things to hurt the feelings of those whose allegiances are to Mohammed and Bin Laden.

[gg188]

Good analysis re Seattle. Also, Seattle is huge, busy port, is it not? Gateway for surface vessels to-and-from Asia. Yet another reason why it would be ripe for targeting by the mohams.

Maybe---hopefully---President Bush knows things that we don't know that assure him the USA is NOT going to be hit by a huge terror attack. If he does NOT have this assurance, while I believe he is doing the best he can, people in the U.S. just are NOT taking this seriously.

The hit to the domestic and the global economy from 9/11 was enormous. The airlines are very close to going under. The stock market is about where it was on September 12. And THAT is just with the lost of 3,000 lives and a handful of buildings. (The cost of protecting airports and planes from old white men with hip replacements is gigantic, both to government and to the private sector; here again, I fear that in the future people will look back and think, gosh, if we'd just taken one TENTH of that money and fought like we have something to FIGHT for and to LIVE for, instead of fretting over hurting the feelings of mohams...)

The losses to the national and world economy in the event of an attack only 10 times as big are unfathomable. Forget the 7 cities multiplied by millions of people---how about just ONE city, like New York, lower Manhattan, say, contaminated for the next few thousand years by a relatively small nuke (along with a few tens of thousands of lives lost.)

I am just afraid that people grossly underestimate what another attack can do to the course of history and the viability of the USA and of civilization itself. These hordes of mohams have been at this for centuries; they count on our taking them lightly.

[knak]

nuclear weapon is set to detonate in a shipping container sitting at an anchorage terminal.

thanks, that really made MY day!

kelly in alaska (50 miles from there!!!)

[American Preservative]

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