The Successful Effort to Ban God

NewsMax ^ | 06/27/2002 | Christopher Ruddy

[MissAmericanPie]

Who says because a state accepts Federal money that the Public school should automatically become a Federal school? That is the outrage, instead of a school reflecting the community, it is forced to reflect a godless government that does not hold the same values as the community whose money it has taken, put in it's own pocket, and will only give back if hoops are jumped through and the community agress to have it's children raised according to Federal doctrine, that my dear is establishment of a religion, and is something the Fed is not suppose to engage in.

[Jim Scott]

Your 'noble' BS above, is belied by your 'atheist boy' nasty post that follows. --- Obviously, you are just another hypocrite, & out of control religious fanatic.

Not that facts would ever matter to you but my post to 'Miss Millie' was my last - to her. When I read the post from Gutterboy (how apt) I was not about to accept his insults unanswered, nor will I accept yours. So, if I state I'm leaving a thread and some atheist sends me a public insult and I respond, I don't see that being hypocritical but you know, it doesn't matter if that qualifies me as a 'hypocrite' to you, sir, as I consider the source of that judgement and so I may easily dismiss it.

I won't engage in flame wars but I will respond to your insulting message, for what it's worth, just this once, then you are free to wallow in your own bile as long as you need to.

Your characterization of me as 'An out of control religious fanatic' is not only laughable but indicates that I've hit a nerve with you. Great! I love to discomfit the bitter and angry who despise our religious freedom in America and attempt to outlaw public references to God.

I'm quite IN control, thanks. I'm religious but I'm not a fanatic as some of your atheist friends - such as Gutterboy (love that oh-so-perfect name) seem to be. This Pledge ruling has certainly brought out the foaming-at-the-mouth atheists and I find it delightful to watch them squirm and howl over the mere mention of God's name. It's almost funny.

I have little interest in atheists and what they think about anything. I do enjoy seeing the outpouring of distaste for the atheists narrow views of 'religion' in America (and the anti-religion movement was going so well, too) but the silly mis-statements and wrong conclusions being posted on FR by a few deserve a response. That's what I've offered but I'm getting bored. It's too easy.

By the way, sir, here's a posting hint. Respond to me with name-calling and insults and you'll receive much the same in return. Reply like a gentlemen and you'll receive a civil reply in return. Simple. Try it sometime.

Now, I'm done. If you wish a reply, use FReepmail or better yet, just go away.

[mv1]

The Successful Effort to Ban God

God is all powerful according to what I have understood of many religions, so please tell me how the heck he/she/it is in a position to be "banned"? Doesn't make any sense. If you believe in Genesis the God of that book says, "let there be light" and wham there is light--don't you think a God with that much power could just about have its way?

[tpaine]

Whatever. -- Get some rest.

[MissMillie]

Most states have anti-establishment clauses in their state constitutions as well.

And it is absolutely true that if the shoe were on the other foot... if the pledge citing some reference to Allah or Satan you folks would be up in arms.

To preserve the religious freedom for the INDIVIDUAL, the government needs to stay out of the business of promoting OR discouraging any spiritual or religious belief whatsoever.

If you want to say the pledge, say it. Don't expect the government to set aside time during the course of its educational calendar to encourage you to say it. Take some personal responsibility for your own patriotism.

[MissAmericanPie]

So it's ok to teach homosexual "fisting" but the pledge is just a bad deal huh? How about letting the community, whose money it is anyway, decide what they want their children taught instead of some Federal, agenda riddled, social engineering, agency?

[MissMillie]

Who said it was okay to teach "fisting", homosexual or otherwise?

Why do you think the government should be in the business of promoting religion or patriotism? Just how big should the government be?