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Impeachment on the 9th Circuit?
June 26th, 2002 | Sabertooth

Posted on 06/26/2002 7:53:53 PM PDT by Sabertooth

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To: Demidog
Yeah. And they chose to abandon the practice.

"Chose." Not "were compelled."




81 posted on 06/26/2002 10:40:32 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
re•li•gion Pronunciation Key (r-ljn) n.

1.Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

2.A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

3.The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

4.A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

5.A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

The Democratic National Party is a religion.

Its spiritual members use the government to impose government mandated morality through the "charitable" redistribution of wealth from those that can work to those that cannot.

The Democratic party is un constitutional and needs to be separated from government activities.

82 posted on 06/26/2002 10:42:27 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: gcruse
lol....idiot
83 posted on 06/26/2002 10:44:01 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: gcruse
That's because unlike FR, other groups don't all necessarily have a grasp of history like we do. That is why we call you and those taht agree with you fools.
84 posted on 06/26/2002 10:52:34 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Spiff
I am printing this out and will suggest it to the fireworks people here.
85 posted on 06/26/2002 10:54:27 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Sabertooth
Impeach and boot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


86 posted on 06/26/2002 10:56:08 PM PDT by conserv122
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To: MinorityRepublican
What are the most conservative members of the House that would likely start such proceedings? We need to get their attention big-time.
87 posted on 06/26/2002 10:59:47 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Partisan Hack
Huh? The decision has been stayed? It won't come into effect? When did this happen and who issued the stay....at whose request?
88 posted on 06/26/2002 11:05:21 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Kay Soze
The Democratic National Party is a religion.

So true. To the Democratic ideologues, the party is the highest arbiter of right and wrong. It is their religion, and that places them at odds with the vast majority of Democratic voters who care more about providing for their families than in advancing the fad Democratic causes of homosexuality, abortion, pornography, prostitution, promiscuity, perversion, adultery, sodomy, and obscenity.

89 posted on 06/26/2002 11:12:59 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Spiff
I intend to get a bullhorn for my recitation of the pledge for specifically those two words.
90 posted on 06/27/2002 4:46:00 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: Sabertooth
These judges must be Impeached.

Great idea!

91 posted on 06/27/2002 4:53:07 AM PDT by neutrino
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To: Sabertooth
A doofus ruling like this does not a high crime or misdemeanor make. However it does strongly imply that we need term limits and/or other means to get doofus Federal judges (or rulings) out of the picture. I like Robert Bork's proposal of a Constitutional amendment to permit the Congress to nullify any court decision by a supermajority vote of both the House and the Senate.
92 posted on 06/27/2002 5:53:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Demidog
consider that the girl in question is forced to listen when under normal circumstances she could simply avoid speech she finds distasteful

Did you see the comments about the Newdow interview this morning. The daughter did NOT find the Pledge distasteful! In fact she recites it verbatim!! It is the father that is playing games and he said so, using the very term "games"!!! (And I am starting to sound like Nitro!!!!)

93 posted on 06/27/2002 5:56:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Demidog
From the decision of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, June 26, 2002:

Newdow's complaint in the district court challenged the constitutionality, under the First Amendment, of the 1954 Act, the California statute, and the school district's policy requiring teachers to lead willing students in recitation of the Pledge.

94 posted on 06/27/2002 6:33:18 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad; All
??.....What states are included within the 9th...???

.................................................................................."Utah"?

95 posted on 06/27/2002 7:59:03 AM PDT by maestro
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To: browardchad
The First Amendment states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,"

The phrase prohibits Congress, and therefore the Federal government, from making any laws regarding religion. That right was left to the individual states, many of which had been settled by those fleeing religious persecution, and those states had established religions at the time of the revolution. The founders therefore meant to prohibit the federal government from meddling in religion.

Sorry, no. It means no more or less than the federal government may not establish a religion as the official one of the United States. If memory serves, one of the first acts of the first Congress was to fund religious missionaries to hector the Indians.

But if the 9th Circuit finds mentions of God so offensive, perhaps the federal government should withdraw all currency from the states in the 9th Circuit. They get to have our money if and when we decided to delete "In God We Trust." Wouldn't want to offend them.

96 posted on 06/27/2002 8:05:43 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Sabertooth
BUMP. Throw the bums out!
97 posted on 06/27/2002 10:02:25 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: browardchad; Sabertooth
Interesting that Mr. Barton believes that judges who overturn referendum results are prime candidates for impeachment. I have one in mind who callously overturned the vote of 6 million people in California, whose last name is Pfaelzer. It probably wouldn't fly right now, due to the amount of time passed, but it would certainly be just. Oh well, I'll have to content myself with the ousting of Ms. Pfaelzer's unindicted co-conspirator, Gray Davis...

As far as the legislative branch being "first among equals", there may be some problems convincing the judiciary of that. I believe that it was Chief Justice John Marshall who claimed such primacy for his branch...everyone always jostling for power in this system.

98 posted on 06/27/2002 11:03:14 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator
From the 9th Circuit decision:

Because the words that amended the Pledge were enacted into law by statute, the district court may not direct Congress to delete those words any more than it may order the President to take such action. All this, of course, is aside from the fact that the President has no authority to amend a statute or declare a law unconstitutional, those functions being reserved to Congress and the federal judiciary respectively.

Newdow nevertheless argues that because the 1954 Act violates the Establishment Clause, Congress should not be protected by the Speech and Debate Clause. This argument misses the jurisdictional, or separation of powers, point. As the Court held in Eastland, in determining whether or not the acts of members of Congress are protected by the Speech and Debate Clause, the court looks solely to whether or not the acts fall within the legitimate legislative sphere; if they do, Congress is protected by the absolute prohibition of the Clause against being "questioned in any other Place." Id. at 501. "If the mere allegation that a valid legislative act was undertaken for an unworthy purpose would lift the protection of the Clause, then the Clause simply would not provide the protection historically undergirding it." Id. at 508-09.

Although the district court lacks jurisdiction over the President and the Congress, the question of the constitutionality of the 1954 Act remains before us. While the court correctly dismissed the claim against those parties, it survives against others.

I suppose this would be business as usual to a lawyer, but what bothers me is that court makes its separation of powers argument based on a previous court decision, and not on the Constitution. In other words, the validity of the Constitution itself depends on the interpretation of the court?

99 posted on 06/27/2002 11:25:49 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Sabertooth
I guess our money is un-Constitutional under that ruling, too.

"In God We Trust"
100 posted on 06/27/2002 11:46:00 AM PDT by exodus
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