Hair in Westerfield home similar to Danielle's: (6-25-2002 Van Dam vs. Westerfield Trial Coverage)

North County Times-San Diego ^ | June 25, 2002 | Kimberly Epler

[sbnsd]

You may very well know that the Internet is much more than web pages. For example, usenet news has tens of thousands of newsgroups.

I used to be signed up to a lot of those newsgroups. I haven't had the time to find them again when I switched from macs to PCs.

Some (many) of the newsgroups are devoted sex pictures and also to a particular pornographic fetishes.

Yup, I've seen these in lists of newsgroups. There's everything under the sun in these newsgroups.

Having tens of thousands of pictures downloaded for free that someone has for the purposes of burning a CD is pretty easy to explain. If someone bulk downloads an entire newsgroup devoted of say, alt.binaries.pictures.asians for example. Strangely there are also several newgroups for the posting of japanese.anime movies

I used to be really interested in anime because I really loved the artistic style. I even drew some, (nothing X or even R rated). I also am into collecting clipart and sig tags. I completely understand about getting thousands of jpgs without knowing what I have. I have been so busy at work, that I have about 26,000 images that I have not gone through because it takes A HUGE amount of time to go through. Every once in a while, I do try going through some of it, and I am very surprised at what gets sent. I simply delete it. Good thing no kids go missing on my street. Occasionally, I burn these images to CD-RW to get them off the computer and to go through them later. It's very tough to go through thousands of jpgs and keeping the ones I want and deleting the ones I don't. Mine aren't all categorized; they're lumped into a folder called "Attachments".

So the inclusion of child porn and japanese anime porn in Mr. Westerfield's or his son's carefully catagorized *ahem* "collection", doesn't surprise me. There are several other perfectly legal explanations for this as well, imo.

Yes, I'm living proof I do this. I even have anime, but they're jpgs, and they're not pornographic, at least not the ones I've gone through.

[sbnsd]

Pete Junger, comp.lang.perl.*. It was later refined into a two-liner.

Are you both Perl geeks? :)

I have a friend who enters this Perl contest every year to write the most obscure code in order to win something - not sure what.

[John Jamieson]

The only thing I've gotten from DNA and fingerprints so far is that Danielle was in that motorhome, not much proof of murder if the MH was often parked 200 feet from her house.

I haven't said this before, because I know I'll probably get flamed, but here goes: The pictures and videos of this sweet little girl show her to be dirty and clumsy. I don't think the parents took good care of her. Dad always left her out of his beer drinking, video game playing with the boys. She was at a very clumsy age, teeth falling out (bleeding), slobbering, rolling with the dog. Very messy room and appearence. Hair never combed. I can easily see her blood, fingerprints, and fibers all over that area.

[UCANSEE2]

Thanks Rheo, I went over there and took care of the PING.

[UCANSEE2]

taking down of a childporn ring in Italy - 1,146 people, *many* of whom are LEOs.

And, I believe, that the VD's were about to take a trip there. Hmmmmmmm............

[UCANSEE2]

"On Saturday, shortly after dawn and well into the twilight hours, Damon van Dam and a high school friend drove a blue van across large sections of sun-dappled desert in areas such as Glamis, Ocotillo, Borrego Springs and Brawley"

Did they drive down Dehesa Road?

[UCANSEE2]

I can easily see her blood, fingerprints, and fibers all over that area.

Exactly, and same goes for when she was in DW's house, and a likely reason for tranferral to the MH even if she never went in it.

[UCANSEE2]

If the DNA and figerprints fit...DW is toast I would say.

Greg, about the only thing I can say, is that you have a unspecific generality, with no information content.

You conclusion does not follow the premise because the premise is incomplete. You seem to be trying to mimic the Johnny Cochran phrase from the OJ trial.

It doesn't work. BTW, have you been to the NED forum. I believe you might find it much more appealing.

[pyx]

I'm breaking my lurker only rule at my son's insistence. One is a Computer Science major and the other is a New Media major(computer graphics) and they are cheering your posts. I bugged them all evening with questions and then showed them your posts. I'm told that you know exactly what they tried to explain to me. They also have numerous ideas of how porn gets into files without it being put there on purpose. Anyway, you now have 2 Texas fans that hope Mom will now quit asking so many questions!

That's very nice. :)
I don't think if I've ever had fans before. :) hehehe

I think Mom should ask them questions constantly. It not only will help Mom understand and it gives BOTH of them a chance to learn their craft (by internalizing it) even more thoroughly by having to conceptulize and explain aspects of it from the perspective of a neophyte. (No mean feat.)

Its incumbent upon the teacher to teach. Imparting what one might understand innately to a student is not always the easiest thing to do especially when there is some complexity involved. But the quality of the student is a clear sign that the teacher knows his stuff. So your youngin's have their work cut out for them. :)

Besides, who could deny that something like this done in a few lines of code is not simply amazing.

Note there were no "human" models in this one.

[185JHP]

Don't know about Borland - was that the co. with the guy that talked about acting like a "barbarian"?

[dread78645]

Are you both Perl geeks? :)

donno about "geek" ...

I have a friend who enters this Perl contest every year to write the most obscure code in order to win something - not sure what.

The International Obfuscated C Code Competition (IOCCC) of ~1983.
Designed to show-off the most clever, yet insane looking code. No prize, just the cheers and jeers of your peers (sorry, I couldn't help it).

The Obfuscated Perl Code Competition came later. Same point, same reward.

[John Jamieson]

"Founded in 1983, Borland is headquartered in Scotts Valley, California, with operations worldwide"

Is Scotts Valley close? Microsoft called them the epicenter of software development.

[UCANSEE2]

Isn't is just amazing what you learn on the INTERNET, especially on FREE REPUBLIC!

[sbnsd]

donno about "geek" ...

I mean 'geek' in an endearing way. I would love to be a geek, but so far, I'm not smart enough as an engineer to be one. =(

[pyx]

Are you ... Perl geeks? :)

I've done a bit of prototyping in Perl. I'm not smart enough to be a geek. I'm only a geek wannabe. I am however BOFH #17 !:) Its a loooong story. :)

I have a friend who enters this Perl contest every year to write the most obscure code in order to win something - not sure what.

There is a pretty cool Obfiscated C contest that I drool over the coding entries every year. Its at http://www,ioccc.org/ and you can get there by clicking here.

Now THAT is artistic !

[Greg Weston]

"Hair never combed."

So the kids hair was never combed in her whole life?

[Greg Weston]

"and a likely reason for tranferral to the MH even if she never went in it."

BWAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cynwoody]

Why is porn so hard to get rid of? I can dump other stuff, and even though it stays on my hard drive until I write over it or reformat my hard drive, why it is different than all the other stuff I have deleted?

You can get utility programs that will overwrite all the unallocated blocks on your hard drive with random garbage in multiple passes. Such programs can also overwrite the blocks belonging to specific files before deleting them. They are rather slow — especially wiping free space. However, they certainly should complicate any forensic analysis!

There are advanced techniques, such as the magnetic force microscope, that may allow overwritten data to be recovered in some cases. It depends on factors such as how long the data was there, whether the drive's physical properties changed between when the data was written and when it was overwritten, etc.

I recall hearing about a murder case in which the culprit sliced up a 5.25 in floppy with scissors because it contained an incriminating letter or something. The cops were able to tape the pieces back together sufficiently well to read the disk!

[Greg Weston]

What every post has to be a mile long? The DNA and the fingerprints do fit. I can't help it if you don't want to accept this.

[dread78645]

If the DNA and figerprints fit...DW is toast I would say.

So would I; But where is Westerfields' prints ?
And where is his DNA ?