VAN DAM vs. Westerfield, 6-24-02: Televised proceedings a far cry from O.J. fiasco!

Union Tribune ^ | June 24, 2002 | Alex Roth

[sbnsd]

If the perp removed the PJ's from Danielle prior to removing her from the home, and she struggled,

And she made no noise? OK. Were the buttons "ripped" off of her PJs, or were they unbuttoned, which could take awhile. Were there buttons? I don't know.

or if he held her close to him, here we go..secondary transfer..code words from witness. Primary transfer: the hair was from layla to danielle. Secondary from the hair was transferredd from danielle to the perp.

So, what are you saying? He wrapped her in the comforter/blanket/rug, got Layla's hairs all over it, and then said, "Wait, I need to remove the PJs.", but the hairs were already on the blanket? And then he took her.

Are you saying he took her w/the PJs, or without the PJs?

[Freedom2specul8]

Actually, I'm still on the fence about her bleeding in her house. I know I said "pj
s with blood"..but it was just for id purposes. Which day was the blood on handrail discussed? If any one can remember, I'll gladly go look-see what was said.

[UCANSEE2]

. Primary transfer: the hair was from layla to danielle. Secondary from the hair was transferredd from danielle to the perp.

SO, this means that Danielle's hair could have been transferred to Brenda, and from Brenda to Westerfield.

Or LAYLA's HAIR could have been transferred to BARB, DENISE, or BRENDA, and then tranferred to WESTERFIELD.

[Freedom2specul8]

Her best friend had an identical pair of pj's according to her mom..it was her friends pj's..at least that's what a lot of us presumed.

[Jaded]

Well he's single and the RV is his, so I suppose he can do what he wants in it. That speaks for, well nevermind.

[nycgal]

How could BVD allow DVD to get into her bed with all that dog hair on her? I'm not sure I buy that.

BTW, are all of DVD's pjs/clothes accounted for? We know that a pj was found inside out in her bedroom. She either left her house nude or wearing another article of clothing

[shezza]

Point taken. ;o)

[Jaded]

Prolly not, she'd be a victim of some sleazy male with nefarious intentions.

[Freedom2specul8]

That post was taken from the other forum.. It wasn't my theory, and I can't tell ya what he was thinking. I just posted it cuz it's nice to read what other people are thinking too. Remember Dori Savage said the pj's were inside out. Maybe they were removed while she was asleep. I have no clue..

[demsux]

Here's a theory that makes sense...

Someone from Dad's, who was invited back to the house to "party", showed up just after the pizza people left.

Damon/Brenda/3rd person "swing" in MB and fall asleep after the "session".

3rd person wakes and takes Danielle.

Mystery solved.

[theirjustdue]

"I know the VD's said that the PJ's grandma held up were a 'spare set for neighbors', but were they?

I got the impression that they were supposed to be the spare set too. One thing is for sure though, they can't say she must have been wearing the spare set that night.

Grandma had those in her hands.

[Freedom2specul8]

I'm tellling you, there is no way dw had an affair with bvd..this is a death penalty case. He would have told that to someone by now.

[sbnsd]

Maybe they were removed while she was asleep. I have no clue..

I would think that either she was wearing her pjs or not would be a very simple thing to answer. If Damon put her to bed in those blue pjs, and later, they were on her floor, that means, she wasn't wearing her pjs. How simple is that? Why isn't there a clear answer?

[shezza]

Or LAYLA's HAIR could have been transferred to BARB, DENISE, or BRENDA, and then tranferred to WESTERFIELD

You know, you may be on to something here. If the shedding dog's hair was all over the house/furniture/carpet, it would be on Brenda's clothes (unless she had a lint brush in her handbag) when she went to Dad's on Friday night...where, IIRC she danced a slow dance with one David Westerfield (according to some witnesses but denied by BVD). Secondary transfer of both Layla and Danielle's hair. Hey, it could happen.

[UCANSEE2]

it was her friends pj's..at least that's what a lot of us presumed.

SO, Then the VD's must have LIED when theyb told everyone she was wearing her PJ's if the PJ's were laying inside out on the floor as found by the police?

[John Jamieson]

Two of the most interesting things today were not testimony but planning stuff.

1. The jury will tour the MH. To me that means the DA will claim that the MH is the murder scene.

2. The will be a day long secret hearing next Monday.
A. Directed verdict? Dismissal?
B. Major new evidence?

[demsux]

I'm tellling you, there is no way dw had an affair with bvd

Maybe they didn't "have sex". As spun by the sinkmaster himself, BJK

[Freedom2specul8]

First I heard that brenda was inviting strangers friday night into the home for swinging purposes, then we heard it was barbara and denises and not brenda. That brenda had no knowledge of it. THEN we learn that only friends came to the house for about 25 minutes or so for leftover pizza.... even though we'd been told for months that they were swinging in the locked garage w/drug dealers and strangers. Then he hear from teh defense side taht all 6 are lying..so what are we to believe?

[Freedom2specul8]

Oh gosh...true....very true. But why would he hide it?

[fnord]

I missed the part about the secret hearing on Monday ... any details?