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U.S.-Mexico World Cup Match Sparks Identity Crisis for Immigrant Fans
AP
| June 15, 2002
| Daisy Nguyn, AP Staff Writer
Posted on 06/16/2002 2:21:27 PM PDT by Pistol
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posted on
06/16/2002 2:21:27 PM PDT
by
Pistol
To: Pistol
I've heard rumors that the US Mens National team won't play Mexico, or any other Central American team in Southern California after Mexican supporters roundly booed and spit on the American players before a "friendly" match. Imagine the home team getting spit on. Thats Mexican gratitude for ya!
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posted on
06/16/2002 2:37:20 PM PDT
by
Weimdog
To: Pistol
As a long time US Soccer fan, this does not suprise me. Its almost impossible to get a home field advantage here in the US. And even when we try to rig it so that at least we have the crowds closest to the field be a US majority, we get sued. This
article really angers me.
To: Pistol
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posted on
06/16/2002 2:44:59 PM PDT
by
bok
To: Pistol
Is it any worse than a Cubs fan at Dodger Stadium? I disapprove of spitting and fighting that seems common with soccer, but I don't see it as wholly a patriotism issue. People of Mexican roots may have grown up as a kid following soccer and rooting for the home team. It's only natural that their affinities will lie with their childhood team. Just because you move from one city to another doesn't mean you have to renounce your favorite team, does it?
Of course, I am rooting for the USA, and I was happy to see another European team go down in defeat last night (Senegal 2, Sweden 1 in overtime). I would like to see USA vs Senegal in the finals. Senegal has a very wierd offensive strategy, but it seems to be working.
To: bok
"We're U.S. fans but we're Mexican fans first," said Jorge Magdaleno, a U.S. resident for 20 years. "We've got to stay true to the homeland. The U.S. pays the bills, but our true roots are still in Mexico." Ah, yes. Just another humble immigrant from Old Mexico, truly grateful for the many, fruitful blessings that his adopted country ... the very freedoms and opportunities he could not have had had he chosen to stay in his native land ... has bestowed upon him. But when the time of choosing comes, he knows to whom he owes his true allegiance, the "homeland." Well, Viva la raza, old buddy. < /sarcasm>
To: Ipse Dixit
Crucial Game Against the U.S. Means the World to Mexicans "If we win, Mexicans will be going bananas and yelling all over the place, like, 'Oh, my God, we have reconquered Texas and New Mexico and California!' " Mena said. "It's a vicarious way of achieving an illusion...
I just love this one from the LA Times.
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posted on
06/16/2002 3:02:18 PM PDT
by
bok
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To: bok
There is no issue here as I see it. They are Mexicans. The address is just an inconvenience.
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posted on
06/16/2002 3:30:32 PM PDT
by
Thebaddog
To: Thebaddog;starfan;paulie
Don't kid yourselves, you know you they'll be rooting for!!!
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posted on
06/16/2002 3:51:14 PM PDT
by
Dutchy
To: Weimdog
One wonders where alligances of Mexican nationals who copped U.S. citizenship would lie in case of war??
To: F16Fighter
Depends on who the opposition is.....if it's anyone who speaks Spanish, we've got a big problem.
To: Pistol
"I'd rather have Mexico eliminate somebody else."Tell us how you really feel buddy.
To: Pistol
Actually, we should just see who supports Mexico over the US and send all of those who do back to Mexico.
To: monkeyshine
Out of curiosity, why would you be happy to see a European team lose?
To: Pistol
You should have seen what is was like when Ireland played the USA in an exhibition game in Foxboro Stadium. People who had one great-great-grandparent from Ireland were more Irish than St. Patrick (actually the Pope's more Irish than St. Patrick).
I figured the headline was about American-born WASPs living in Mexico. As to people with one Mexican great-great-grandparent living in the USA, who are more Mexican than Montezuma, there's no doubt in my mind who they'll be rooting for.
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
You could write similar stories about Italian, Polish and Irish Americans when the US plays those teams. Soccer is a passion in those countries, it is a link to the "old country" for Americans of those persuasions. Face it, soccer in the US doesn't bring out that kind of passion, it is not part of our tradition. That's just the way it is.
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posted on
06/16/2002 7:32:03 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Phillip Augustus
I'm not too pleased with their stance on world affairs of late. I'd rather see Senegal win, or Japan or Mexico even if it can't be the USA. Last world cup I was rooting for France once the USA lost. This year I've decided to be anti-European. In that sense January can't come soon enough for me :-)
Anwway, with the EU taking effect, why aren't they only allowed one team? Why can't the USA field 50 teams?
To: dfwgator
My point exactly. I remember when I was a white private in the Army being shown kindness and consideration by Mexican-American and Black NCO's. I've come to think people treat you as you treat them. I don't want the country over-run by unassimilated Mexicans or Hindus or Chinese or any one else. But, I'm not bothered by the fact that Mexicans here root for Mexico in a soccer game.
To: monkeyshine
Cripes, let 'em dilute their talent. BTW, the best players on the championship French team were Berbers, so Algeria was cheering, too.
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