Posted on 06/12/2002 11:57:24 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:38:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
VICTORVILLE, Calif. (AP) - A man described by a judge as "an evil monster" was sentenced to 25 years in prison for using a baseball bat, metal pipe and golf club to attack a 12-year-old Halloween trick-or-treater on his doorstep.
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Sure..
If this person was positioned to harm other I most certainly could.. This helps your case how exactly?
So, the public is the origin of rights?
Some rights are conferred upon individuals by the public, some aren't. Depends on the right at issue.
From where did the public get rights to confer to others?
"Prescription is the most solid of all titles, not only to property, but, which is to secure that property, to government. They harmonise with each other, and give mutual aid to one another. It is accompanied with another ground of authority in the constitution of the human mind-- presumption. It is a presumption in favour of any settled scheme of government against any untried project, that a nation has long existed and flourished under it. It is a better presumption even of the choice of a nation, far better than any sudden and temporary arrangement by actual election. Because a nation is not an idea only of local extent, and individual momentary aggregation, but it is an idea of continuity, which extends in time as well as in numbers and in space. And this is a choice not of one day, or one set of people, not a tumultuary and giddy choice; it is a deliberate election of ages and of generations; it is a Constitution made by what is ten thousand times better than choice--it is made by the peculiar circumstances, occasions, tempers, dispositions, and moral, civil, and social habitudes of the people, which disclose themselves only in a long space of time." -- Edmund Burke
The world is more complex than the coloring book philosophy of Libertarianism can comprehend.
Among other things, it subjects him to the statutes and regulations governing such contracts.
We need to just let everybody do their own thing.. Ya know?
States have no right's.. and the people have no right's.. Only the individual property owners have right's man..
The people of these states can pass laws against dope, porn prostitution or anything they want within the framework of our Consitiution.
Period.
If you want to build a nuke in your basement, I am TRULY SORRY but we, the people of the states might dissagree and call you a criminal for it.
That's the way it goes.. It's Constitutional and you don't get State sanctioned bomb building authority because the people of the state decided you are a flake...
I am truly sadened by your loss..
I suppose the people (collectively) decided...
Only the people approching the intersection decide. It is not necessary to get the consensus of the entire neighborhood. How is a decision made as to who gets to go first? Well, everyone has in himself the instict of self-preservation. Just as it would be foolish to run across a street without first looking both ways, it would also be foolish to drive full speed through a blind intersection. So, they arrive at an agreement beneficial to the parties involved. Out of courtesy one typically motions another to make the first move.
You guy's would take the right to bear arms and equate it with Larry Flynt screwing a sheep on his front porch..
Geez, common sense is a rare thing in the LP.. And I am being generous cause I like you!
And they would happily destroy the foundations of even those rights.
"All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin, his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions, absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the Creature of public Convention." --Benjamin Franklin
"It is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all. It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By a universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common is the property for the moment of him who occupies it; but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society." --Thomas Jefferson
So, society could decide to confiscate your Bible and your church? How about your guns?
How is it determined which rights society can confer on individuals and which rights society cannot?
Oh wait, such a quandry..
You have put your finger directly on the problem with some libertarians. They want an omnipotent central government using their rules. They worship at the feet of the fourteenth amendment because of that.
Finally, we agree.. If anyone doesn't like it they can Ammend the Constitution.
The owner of the property voluntarily concedes to the limitation. The decision was his alone to make. It wasn't made for him by society or anybody else.
How do ya figure?
How is it determined which rights society can confer on individuals and which rights society cannot?
Again:
"Prescription is the most solid of all titles, not only to property, but, which is to secure that property, to government. They harmonise with each other, and give mutual aid to one another. It is accompanied with another ground of authority in the constitution of the human mind-- presumption. It is a presumption in favour of any settled scheme of government against any untried project, that a nation has long existed and flourished under it. It is a better presumption even of the choice of a nation, far better than any sudden and temporary arrangement by actual election. Because a nation is not an idea only of local extent, and individual momentary aggregation, but it is an idea of continuity, which extends in time as well as in numbers and in space. And this is a choice not of one day, or one set of people, not a tumultuary and giddy choice; it is a deliberate election of ages and of generations; it is a Constitution made by what is ten thousand times better than choice--it is made by the peculiar circumstances, occasions, tempers, dispositions, and moral, civil, and social habitudes of the people, which disclose themselves only in a long space of time." -- Edmund Burke
The resident of a state voluntarily concedes to the limitations.
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