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1 posted on 06/12/2002 5:30:21 PM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 06/12/2002 5:30:56 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Nachum
Another moslem preaching peace and love? Well, perhaps it will trigger the elimination of about 800,000,000 moslems. Which wouldn't be a bad thing. It might even reduce the global warming problem.
3 posted on 06/12/2002 5:34:41 PM PDT by neutrino
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What is frightening is the number of home-grown "Americans" who would agree with these statements.
4 posted on 06/12/2002 5:35:44 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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4 million? Must have been deduced by million man math.
5 posted on 06/12/2002 5:42:08 PM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: Nachum
"We have not reached parity with them,"

Nor will you ever. We will erase your subhuman species from the earth before that happens.

6 posted on 06/12/2002 5:54:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Nachum
They try.... they fry.
7 posted on 06/12/2002 5:59:11 PM PDT by b4its2late
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To: Nachum
When will the CAIR terrorists denounce this Al Qaeda "spokesman"?
8 posted on 06/12/2002 6:00:58 PM PDT by GuillermoX
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To: Nachum
Sounds like that latent case of syphilis is finally kicking in. There couldn't be any other explanation for such a pile of crap.
9 posted on 06/12/2002 6:02:54 PM PDT by amstaff1
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"Muslims have the right to kill 4 million Americans – including 2 million children – based on Islamic teachings"
"...found justification for killing Americans in the Islamic holy book, the Koran, in which 'Allah said, "He who attacked you, attack him as he attacked you," … .' "
"the [divine] rule is that the entire earth must be subject to the religion of Allah "
This is a religion? It's a Satanic cult.

Anything like this does not deserve the protections of Freedom of Religion. It is a murders, subversive organization, which should be outlawed, just like any terrorist organization or any organization dedicated to the overthrow of the govenment.

"United States as...an "infidel democratic regime that is based upon separation of religion and state and on ruling the people by the people via legislating laws that contradict the way of Allah and permit what Allah has prohibited."
This "Allah" is not God. It is a phoney "idol", also known as Satan or The Devil, and those who serve "him" are Satanic devil-worshippers. They probably know it.
10 posted on 06/12/2002 6:08:17 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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"The Americans have still not tasted from our hands what we have tasted from theirs," Abu Gheith wrote.

No fair, Abu. At least we don't use our left hands directly to wipe the klingons off our sterns.

11 posted on 06/12/2002 6:09:24 PM PDT by piasa
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COME GET SOME!
12 posted on 06/12/2002 6:12:03 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Nachum
"Muslims should continue to be afraid, very afraid of the consequences of any further crap the world has to take from them."
--amstaff1

13 posted on 06/12/2002 6:13:04 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Nachum
Allah...Lord of Death...Lord of Decay...Hideous pile of Crap. Jehovah said it is not My will that any should perish. Convert the Infidel. "Allah" says Kill the Infidel! There is One God and Allah Is NOT, NOT, NOT, his name. They are not the same no matter what the liberals tell you, the liberal "christians" who play into the hands of Allah's stooges. Look at the soulless zombie eyes of Z. Mousawie, of M. Attah.....
15 posted on 06/12/2002 6:15:21 PM PDT by linton59
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Sounds like allot of grandstanding from someone who is supposed to be out to get us.

A truly deadly and dangerous enemy would just strike and leave it at that.

Me thinks cutting off their funds and the wot has weakened them considerably.

OH, and BTW.. Where's Osama? What's with this spokesman stuff.

Likely he's dead and they are in total dissarray.

16 posted on 06/12/2002 6:16:45 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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He castigated the United States as the "head of heresy in our modern world" with an "infidel democratic regime that is based upon separation of religion and state "

Nope, we're not a democracy nor are we supposed to be a separation of church and stte, but rather a place where people have the freedom to worship in peace. Abu and friends cannot stand the idea of freedom, most assuredly not freedom OF religion.

and on ruling the people by the people via legislating laws that contradict the way of Allah and permit what Allah has prohibited."

Well, if the way of Allah means to force people to submit to a particular faith, or to prevent people from having freedom of speech, to lop off people's arms for kicks and grins, to kill women because they were a victims of rape, or to talk people into seling their souls through suicide, you can keep on fighting me Abu because I want you dead before you get to impose that crap on me.

According to Abu Gheith the U.S. system "compels the other countries to act in accordance with the same laws in the same ways ...

No, we offer a prime example of why your systems suck and you find that humiliating, Abu, because you haven't ever created anything worth a camel's hocker in your entire life.

and punishes any country [that rebels against these laws] by besieging it, and then by boycotting it."

Why, in defense of this coutry we'll do it to the next country that shelters, pampers and empowers terrorists and provides them the freedom to strike the US too.

By doing these things, he said, the United States "seeks to impose on the world a religion that is not Allah's ... ."

Abu doesn't like the idea of setting people free so they can choose on their own what to believe; and as far as Allah goes, the less of the "Religion of Slavery ® " to spread around, the better.

20 posted on 06/12/2002 6:28:05 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Nachum
They don't any right to kill a single soul. Two wrongs do not make a right.
23 posted on 06/12/2002 7:30:32 PM PDT by Liberal Classic
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Abu Gheith wondered how a Muslim can accept humiliation and inferiority

By being a Muslim of course. The only way out is to plead for us to end your misery in a burning fireball.

24 posted on 06/12/2002 7:35:01 PM PDT by Brett66
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The al-Qaida spokesman declared "America is the reason for all oppression, injustice, licentiousness, or suppression that is the Muslims' lot. It stands behind all the disasters that were caused and are still being caused to the Muslims; it is immersed in the blood of Muslims and cannot hide this."

They sound just like American liberals. Always blaming someone else for their misery.

27 posted on 06/12/2002 9:45:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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Any hope of converting Muslims into human beings must begin by the elimination of every Muslim cleric, without exception.
What do these guys do? Stay up nights dreaming up the most preposterous statements?
How does one begin to reason with such an alien mentality?

In my fantasy world, every unconscious American do-gooder would travel to the Middle East to "reason" with these maggots masquerading as people.
Would solve two problems at once.

30 posted on 06/13/2002 4:58:07 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Nachum
I just found a non-WND article on the same from memri. This article contains everything the WND article included and then some. I thought it might be of interest to include the entire translation:

'Why We Fight America': Al-Qa'ida Spokesman Explains September 11 and Declares Intentions to Kill 4 Million Americans with Weapons of Mass Destruction

Al-Qa'ida spokesman Suleiman Abu Gheith, originally from Kuwait, recently posted a three-part article titled "In the Shadow of the Lances" on the website of the Center for Islamic Research and Studies, www.alneda.com. Following numerous hacking attempts after the international media reported that the site was linked to Al-Qa'ida, its address was changed to http://66.34.191.223.

Recently, the site published an article by Ayman Al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's deputy and leader of the Egyptian Jihad organization. However, the Saudi London-based Arabic-daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat reported that the article had already appeared in the Al-Mujahiddeen publication.(1) The following are excerpts from Abu Gheith's article:

Part I: Why We Fight the U.S. "...Perhaps the [Islamic] nation is waiting for one Al-Qa'ida man to come out and clear up the many questions that accompany any communiqué, message, or picture [concerning September 11], to know the truth, the motives, and the goals behind the conflict with the Hubal [one of the pre-Islamic Ka'ba idols - referring to the U.S.] of our generation..."

"Why is the world surprised?! Why were millions of people astounded by what happened to America on September 11? Did the world think that anything else would happen? That something less than this would happen?!"

"What happened to America is something natural, an expected event for a country that uses terror, arrogant policy, and suppression against the nations and the peoples, and imposes a single method, thought, and way of life, as if the people of the entire world are clerks in its government offices and employed by its commercial companies and institutions."

"Anyone who was surprised, and did not expect [the events of September 11] did not [understand] the nature of man, and the effects of oppression and tyranny on man's emotions and feelings. They thought that oppression begets surrender, that repression begets silence, that tyranny only leaves humiliation. Perhaps they also thought that this [oppressive] atmosphere is sufficient to kill man's virility, shatter his will, and uproot his honor. These people erred twice: once when they ignored [the consequences of] treating man with contempt, and again when they were unaware of man's ability to triumph."

"This goes for every man - let alone when the man in question is of those who believe in Allah, in Islam as a religion, and in Muhammad as Prophet and Messenger, and anyone who knows that his religion is unwilling to allow him to be inferior and refuses to allow him to be humiliated."

The Entire Earth Must Be Subjected to Islam
"How can [he] possibly [accept humiliation and inferiority] when he knows that his nation was created to stand at the center of leadership, at the center of hegemony and rule, at the center of ability and sacrifice? How can [he] possibly [accept humiliation and inferiority] when he knows that the [divine] rule is that the entire earth must be subject to the religion of Allah – not to the East, not to the West - to no ideology and to no path except for the path of Allah?..."

"As long as this Muslim knows and believes in these facts, he will not - even for a single moment - stop striving to achieve it, even if it costs him his soul... his time, his property, and his son, as it is said, 'Say [to the believers]: If your fathers and your sons and your brethren and your wives and your kinsfolk and the worth you have acquired and the trade, the dullness of which you apprehend, and the dwellings that you fancy are dearer to you than Allah and His Messenger, and striving in His cause, then wait until Allah issues His judgment. Allah guides not the disobedient people...'"(2)

Part II: The Blow Against the U.S. Will Come from Where Least Expected
"...The [premises] on which we base ourselves as an organization, and on which we base our operations and our method of action, are practical and realistic... They are also scientific and [in accordance with] Islamic religious law, and they give us confidence and certainty... In writing them and in [publicly] revealing them, I do not intend to be apologetic for what was done; I lay [these arguments] before you so as to emphasize that we are continuing with our blows against the Americans and the Jews, and with attacking them, both people and installations [so as to stress] that what awaits the Americans will not, Allah willing, be less than what has already happened to them. America must prepare itself; it must go on maximum alert; ... because, Allah willing, the blow will come from where they least expect it..."

"America is the head of heresy in our modern world, and it leads an infidel democratic regime that is based upon separation of religion and state and on ruling the people by the people via legislating laws that contradict the way of Allah and permit what Allah has prohibited. This compels the other countries to act in accordance with the same laws in the same ways... and punishes any country [that rebels against these laws] by besieging it, and then by boycotting it. By so doing, [America] seeks to impose on the world a religion that is not Allah's..."

"America, with the collaboration of the Jews, is the leader of corruption and the breakdown [of values], whether moral, ideological, political, or economic corruption. It disseminates abomination and licentiousness among the people via the cheap media and the vile curricula."

"America is the reason for all oppression, injustice, licentiousness, or suppression that is the Muslims' lot. It stands behind all the disasters that were caused and are still being caused to the Muslims; it is immersed in the blood of Muslims and cannot hide this."

"For 50 years in Palestine, the Jews - with the blessing and support of the Americans - carried out abominations of murder, suppression, abuse, and exile... The Jews exiled nearly 5 million Palestinians and killed nearly 260,000. They wounded nearly 180,000, and crippled nearly 160,000."

"Due to the American bombings and siege of Iraq, more than 1,200,000 Muslims were killed in the past decade. Due to the siege, over a million children are killed [annually] - that is 83,333 children on average per month, 2,777 children on average per day. 5,000 Iraqis were killed in one day in the Al-'Amiriya shelter alone. Are these statistics of military installations???!!!!"

"In its war against the Taliban and Al-Qa'ida in Afghanistan, America has killed 12,000 Afghan civilians and 350 Arab Jihad fighters, among them women and children. It annihilated entire families from among the Arab Jihad fighters while they were in their cars, when the American Air Force bombed [them] with helicopters and anti-tank missiles, until nothing remained of some of them except scattered body parts."

"In Somalia, America killed 13,000 Somalis and [its soldiers] carried out acts of abomination on [Somali] boys and women."

Muslims Have Suffered from the U.S.'s Standing with Christians
"America's standing with the Christians of the world against the Muslims has stripped the camouflage from its face. Much can be said about this regarding the Sudan, the Philippines, Indonesia, Kashmir, Macedonia, Bosnia, and other tragedies. America's siege on the Islamic countries as punishment for their rebellion against its laws has transgressed all limits, and Muslims have suffered economic losses that outstrip the imagination."

"After all this, is it forbidden for a victim to escape when he is tied and brought to the slaughterhouse?!! Is he not entitled, while he is being slaughtered, to stamp his feet?!!..."

"After all this, some [Arab regimes] shed crocodile tears for what happened to the country of heresy [America], and tried to exonerate Islam from what happened to [America] and asked the country of heresy to treat the Muslims sensitively and gently, and sent messengers and broadcasters to the Jihad fighters with a request to stop fighting Hubal [i.e. meaning the U.S.]. Do they really think we would do this?!"

"No, by Allah. They [the Arab regimes] have turned their back on us and we have turned our back on them ... We would have no honor if we did not avenge the blood of our brothers in Palestine, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and everywhere."

"... The banner is being waved openly, and now there is 'only a trench of belief' and 'a trench of heresy.'"

Part III: The Islamic Justification for Al-Qa'ida's Jihad Against the U.S.
"The religious arguments on which we base ourselves in our Jihad against the Americans - the explanations that inspire us with confidence in the triumph of our religion, our belief, and our faith - are many, and this is not the place to enumerate them, as they are included in the books of the sages."

"No one disagrees with these explanations, except he who lives [in] fear ... he who asks for shelter, thinking that he has distanced himself from evil ... or he who kneels as a doorman before the doors of the tyrants to gain a position, advancement, or a gift!!"

"These people have not, Allah be praised, dissuaded us, not even for a single day, from continuing in our path, from our Jihad, and from our mission. Allah willing, they will not prevent us [in the future]."

"In this article I will present one explanation that suffices [to wage] Jihad against the Americans, the Jews, and anyone who has gone in their path..."

"Allah said, 'He who attacked you, attack him as he attacked you,' and also, 'The reward of evil is a similar evil,' and also, 'When you are punished, punish as you have been punished.'"

"The words of the sages on these verses are clear: Ibn Taimiyya [in his book] Al Ikhtiyarat Wa-Al-Fatawi; Ibn Al-Qayim in I'lam Al-Muqi'in and in Al-Hashiya; Al-Qurtubi in his Tafsir, Al-Nawawi in Al-Muhazab; Al-Shukani in Nayl Al-Awtar; and others, may Allah's mercy be upon them."

"Anyone who peruses these sources reaches a single conclusion: The sages have agreed that the reciprocal punishment to which the verses referred is not limited to a specific instance. It is a valid rule for punishments for infidels, for the licentious Muslims, and for the oppressors."

Islamic Law Allows Reciprocation against the U.S.
"If by religious law it is permitted to punish a Muslim [for the crime he committed] - it is all the more permitted to punish a Harbi infidel [i.e. he who belongs to Dar Al-Harb 'the domain of disbelief'] in the same way he treated the Muslim."

"According to the numbers I noted in the previous section of the lives lost from among the Muslims because of the Americans, directly or indirectly, we still are at the beginning of the way. The Americans have still not tasted from our hands what we have tasted from theirs. The [number of] killed in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were no more than fair exchange for the ones killed in the Al-'Amiriya shelter in Iraq, and are but a tiny part of the exchange for those killed in Palestine, Somalia, Sudan, the Philippines, Bosnia, Kashmir, Chechnya, and Afghanistan."

We Have the Right to Kill 4 Million Americans
"We have not reached parity with them. We have the right to kill 4 million Americans - 2 million of them children - and to exile twice as many and wound and cripple hundreds of thousands. Furthermore, it is our right to fight them with chemical and biological weapons, so as to afflict them with the fatal maladies that have afflicted the Muslims because of the [Americans'] chemical and biological weapons."

"America knows only the language of force. This is the only way to stop it and make it take its hands off the Muslims and their affairs. America does not know the language of dialogue!! Or the language of peaceful coexistence!! America is kept at bay by blood alone..."

Endnotes:

(1) Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (London), June 7, 2002.
(2) Koran 9:24.

32 posted on 06/15/2002 3:37:26 PM PDT by scripter
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