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Barb Easton next witness in the Van Dam Murder Case!!
Union Trib ^ | June 11, 2002 | Kristen Green

Posted on 06/10/2002 10:17:56 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
IMHO, you were right the first time. :-)

I think your two statements sum up the alternative conclusions nicely.

Continuing on a lighter note, if the judge just throws out the case when the prosecution finishes, which looks very possible at this time, I wonder if DW will be free on Thursdays to do some light cleaning for me? LOL

701 posted on 06/12/2002 5:57:56 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Dante3
Tragedy can strike the best of families. But parents can do a great deal to REDUCE THE PROBABILITY of their child being harmed. This includes many common sense precaution, among others, not inviting into the home a known pedophile, locking the doors at night, checking up on your children if you find an intruder might have entered the home, placing porn filters on computers, monitoring what the children watch on TV.

Man that is so true..and predators who have been stalking any family, can simply be like a snake, with lots of patience, just waiting for the perfect opportunity. On the other hand the creep could have been clearly on a revenge trip, and did something he would have never done if sober.

If the idiot predator has been planning for a long time and knows that the family is "overly comfortable" in their surroundings, (brenda and he exchanged #'s, she went in his house w/kids w/indicates a safe factor and trust) well they can be the next target. While the parents were idiots in this day and age to not check the kids etc....it's the fault of the predator who did this to danielle. Most people take for granted that their neighors are not harmful..IMHO, everyone, especially those with kids can do themselves a great favor and get a list of sex offenders in their community. A single friend of mine who has one child, taped a pic of a predator who lived a couple of blocks away underneath the peep hole on her front door so she and her daughter would recognize him if he ever knocked...she didn't keep it up after the child got older.. So far the evidence indicates that the people who entered the home were so-called friends. Maybe during the defense's presentation of evidence, they'll prove strangers entered the home..I'm waiting on that.

702 posted on 06/12/2002 6:01:10 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: pinz-n-needlez
I never even considered the idea that the judge would throw the case out. This is the same judge Mudd who said he believes the evidence indicates guilt. That's why the trial occurred. PLUS judge mudd is aware of evidence that we know nothing about...I'm still in the "wait and see what else we learn about the evidence".
703 posted on 06/12/2002 6:05:10 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Should have read

still in the "wait and see what else we learn about the evidence mode"

Time for morning coffee.. :)

704 posted on 06/12/2002 6:06:02 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I leave open the possibility that the presecution may bring up some credible evidence against DW. But so far, the VDs and buddies have been awful, the cops sounded like they were from the neighboring town of Keystone (my overall impression, I did a lot of errands yesterday), and Feldman seems to be knocking them down as soon as Dusek sets them up. It does sound, so far, like Brenda sicced the cops on him to punish him for terminal geekness.

I said it flippantly. I could use some of his compulsive neatness around here. lol

And we could use some more levity, as we wait patiently for Nancy Grace's rapier-keen insights. LOL

705 posted on 06/12/2002 6:13:02 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Rheo
"I want to know if the VD's vehicles were checked and everyone of the people that were in that house....including all their computers."

We do know they took the van Dam computer(s) about the same time as they took Westerfield's. Given Feldman's question to Brenda about the porn on their computer, one suspects they had to share the evidence with the defense under the "discovery" rules. As for the others, I haven't heard of anyone else having their homes searched, their computers taken, etc. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it's not come out if it did.

706 posted on 06/12/2002 6:14:45 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Jaded
Bump....for post of the month! Grins!

sw

707 posted on 06/12/2002 6:14:59 AM PDT by spectre
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To: Lauratealeaf
Private Lives-Public Trial:Are Sexual ?'s Relevant In The Van Dam Trial? (TRIAL THREAD-BARB WATCH)

NEW THREAD ALERT!

708 posted on 06/12/2002 6:20:04 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Nancy Grace? You mean the one on CTV who keeps saying "the little girl's body..Danielle... just a baby of 7 years old, murdered..and was dumped, laying in a state of decomposition, like trash..just garbage on the side of the road"...Then she pans to a picture of Westerfield.

THAT Nancy? Hurl!

709 posted on 06/12/2002 6:21:13 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre, pinz-n-needlez
LOL Hey, there's no harm in creating sympathy for the victim ya know.
710 posted on 06/12/2002 6:26:37 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Rheo
The parents were kept away from their home for awhile and completed the routine polygraphs etc... (unless the reports were incorrect. we know they can be saturated with errors)
711 posted on 06/12/2002 6:27:50 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: spectre
Yeah, the one who tugged at my heart strings, telling how the poor mother was out at 3:00 in the morning searching for her lost baby, calling her name up and down the street.

That Nancy! LOL

Now wonder we trip all over one another with conflicting info.

712 posted on 06/12/2002 6:33:37 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Greg Weston
"So you contention is that anyone who has ever drank a beer and smoked marijuana is a "scamming, immoral flake"?"

I suggest you read the entire post, Greg, before commenting. I was writing about the witnesses the prosecution put on the stand prior to yesterday. Those specific witnesses. I'm sorry if you have a problem with that, or if you have a problem with people expressing opinions that are not yours. It's called "the breaks"--this is a public board. My post followed the rules set out by Jim Robinson. When you called Angelique a "freak" you made a personal attack--that, Mr. Weston, is against the FR rules.

713 posted on 06/12/2002 6:36:18 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: pinz-n-needlez
I agree that the parents friends have a lot to be desired, but I'm sure you can imagine that's it is probably more common than you or I would have thought. Judging from some of the posts I've witnessed, I'm starting to think that some people are shocked that some middle class or upper middle class folks party like wayward teens too. (now, I'm not attacking any socioeconomic level..so for those of you who think I am forget it) I will never completely comprehend "why" some people never grow up wrt:their partying. I have ideas, and see patterns but no clear answers, unless we research the bible then we DO know the answer. IMHO, there is no excuse for it.
714 posted on 06/12/2002 6:39:06 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: pinz-n-needlez
The first line of my post... sigh, I know you know what I mean(t). I'm still on my first cup of java and last night was well, TIRESOME. My alertness is low. I'm gong to sit back and lurk..read the thoughts of you guys for awhile. :)
715 posted on 06/12/2002 6:43:05 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"It sure would be nice to have people work on all perceived insults, and not just those who dont' agree with oh how should I put this..the side of fres.. But that is the way it's been ..that's why some of the fence sitters have quit posting..per their freepmails to me."

Let's be fair. I have freepmail from fence setters who have said the same thing about...let's say the side of Kim...why they don't post or don't like to post. It swings both ways.

716 posted on 06/12/2002 6:51:26 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: sbnsd
I'm sticking to the ruby slippers. "There's no place like home, there's no place like home."
717 posted on 06/12/2002 7:00:32 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: Rheo;Jrabbit
No trace of her in his SUV or it wouldn't have been released to him.

This is a huge issue and I wish I knew with 100% certainty that there was no evidence in the Toyota. I agree that it seems unlikely that it would have been returned.

That's a pretty big hole. I can't see a jury being convinced that he transferred her body from his house to the MH on Saturday after dawn. The prosecution is going to have to lay out their theory of how he pulled this off from beginning to end and I think it's going to require some big leaps and stretches; figuratively and literally. :)

718 posted on 06/12/2002 7:03:57 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: MizSterious
Let's be fair. I have freepmail from fence setters who have said the same thing about...let's say the side of Kim...why they don't post or don't like to post. It swings both ways.

I will up your ante...How many times have you told your side to stop with the insults, careful..that's a "loaded" question. (and yes, I have told my side to stop)

719 posted on 06/12/2002 7:05:11 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Rheo
Actually, the VanDams got rid of Damon's van recently. The new car is a beamer. Wonder why they didn't check the van?
720 posted on 06/12/2002 7:05:38 AM PDT by Jaded
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