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NY Jews To Start Armed Patrols
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 6-10-2002

Posted on 06/09/2002 5:30:15 PM PDT by blam

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To: mrustow
please reference posts 32,38,56,58.61.66,69,71.

You were not baited,you became offensive immediately by a post I made which was not directed to you.Then you started an attack, as opposed to a dialogue. Since you are unwilling to to answer my question, I will assume you are just having some childish fun on this thread.

Have a nice day.

81 posted on 06/11/2002 3:52:27 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: rmlew
Before i continue, I would like to apologize. I confused you with someone else. You are not an anti-semite,

Thank you.

but you do seem to think all Jews are leftists.

No,but the ones who are leftists are so vocal and have so much access to the media that it sometimes seems that way.

82 posted on 06/11/2002 5:00:48 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: jocko12
LOOKS LIKE THE BOYS FROM NY ARE STARTING TO PLAY COWBOYS AND MUSLIMS!!!! 3 posted on 6/9/02 5:36 PM Pacific by jocko12 [

KEWL !

83 posted on 06/11/2002 5:03:07 PM PDT by timestax
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To: rmlew
Doctrines of theological responsibility and of earthly revenge are two whole different kettles of fish in Christian theology. Any call for Christians to assault or, worse, annihilate Jews on account of Jewish theological rejection of Jesus Christ, has absolutely no basis in the New Testament. It stinks of jealous ego, which is Satan's game, not God's.
84 posted on 06/12/2002 3:15:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Doctrines of theological responsibility and of earthly revenge are two whole different kettles of fish in Christian theology.
In practice, the results have been the same. Ester Pogroms were no accident.

Any call for Christians to assault or, worse, annihilate Jews on account of Jewish theological rejection of Jesus Christ, has absolutely no basis in the New Testament. It stinks of jealous ego, which is Satan's game, not God's.

Tell that to the Christian Rome and Byzantium, the Visigoths, the Crusaders, mediavel England, France, HRE, Bohemia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Russia, and post 1492 Spain.

85 posted on 06/12/2002 5:58:22 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew
It's like the news business. 99% of citizens minding their own business don't get the headlines. The other 1% that rob banks, kill children while driving drunk, murder for drugs, etc. get the headlines. You should look in your own mirror for bigotry.
86 posted on 06/12/2002 6:24:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: rmlew
P.S. ALL who reject Jesus Christ, gentile or Jew, are theologically responsible before God. The Jewish rejection was a bit more picturesque than the gentile. But there is no difference. All without Christ are doomed to the same nonsectarian hell.
87 posted on 06/12/2002 6:26:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It's like the news business. 99% of citizens minding their own business don't get the headlines. The other 1% that rob banks, kill children while driving drunk, murder for drugs, etc. get the headlines. You should look in your own mirror for bigotry.

How am I a bigot?
I don't blame all Christians. I simply noted that certain theological interpritation have led to slaughter of Jews.

88 posted on 06/12/2002 6:58:30 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew
You're blaming the doctrine for what, in fact, is a twisted form that can't be deduced from the New Testament. When God established the Christian faith, He was quite pointed that it was not to be a private gangster club that seeks its own revenge; He promised that there would be a judgment that He alone would carry out. Revenge "Christianity" is clearly the doctrine of men, not of the Bible. Go ahead... get red in the face blaming the Bible for a doctrine which it does not preach.
89 posted on 06/12/2002 10:47:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: rmlew
Why are Jews held responsible for the decision of a puppet court of the Roman installed non-Judean King of Judea and the punishment metted out to someone considered a threat by the Romans?

The Jewish responsibility in the matter (in an earthly sense) arose from the call of the crowd to crucify. If you recall from the gospel accounts, Pontius Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus, and in fact appeared to believe Jesus was a harmless character and tried to reason with the crowd, but went with the crowd in the end. Pontius Pilate would have been removed by the Romans if he had bucked the crowd, precisely because Rome hated domestic unrest and held the local officials responsible for it.

That having been said, a Christianity which focuses exclusively on that scene is a warped one. It misses the point of Christianity which is not to be an "earthly-Jesus club" but rather to believe on the eternal Son of God and be saved.

90 posted on 06/12/2002 11:16:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: rmlew
"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"

Sound like a revenge call to you? Doesn't to me.

91 posted on 06/12/2002 11:19:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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