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Bush Plan's Underground Architects
Washington Post ^ | 06/09/2002 | David Von Drehle and Mike Allen

Posted on 06/08/2002 9:29:21 PM PDT by Pokey78

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Angelique
I do not think President Bush or the nation was betrayed by the FBI as a whole. I do think that Louis Freeh allowed himself to be pushed in the direction of ignoring some of the warning signs, and I also think that the PC attitude that Janet Reno insisted on made it impossible for them to react quickly to some of these clues. They also had to spend far too much time in doing things like investigating video and music piracy and harassing Whie House travel office empoyees.

The bureaucratic structure which has grown up in the FBI has also contributed to the problem.

I am unwilling to tar the whole organization, but I do think some of the management need to go. I did hear Ashcroft say that they had gotten rid of a few people.

The other reason they may not want the FBI in this is because we STILL don't know how many spies are there. Since Hansen was in charge of much of the vetting of people, there could be a few moles still in the Bureau.

41 posted on 06/09/2002 4:44:03 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Angelique
Like night and day!
42 posted on 06/09/2002 4:52:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Grampa Dave
The Stealth President strikes again!
43 posted on 06/09/2002 4:57:33 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: bybybill
Pleasured him?
44 posted on 06/09/2002 5:04:16 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Miss Marple
Your last paragraph makes a lot of sense. I know someone who went through the FBI and was finally canned because she used the agency. That is hopeful.

We have such short memories. Reno tore the agency apart. Thank you for reminding me about the history.

45 posted on 06/09/2002 5:11:22 AM PDT by Angelique
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To: Pokey78
Well. As someone who has been critical of Bush at various times, I'd say hooray for this effort.
46 posted on 06/09/2002 5:55:46 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
That is gracious of you to say. I think that many of the things being done are being done in this manner, so that there is no advance warning to the press and the Clintonistas.

I would also direct you to the liberal whining currently going on about the education bill, which was not my favorite. I of course did not read the entire bill, just like most of the people on Free Republic. Apparently Senator Kennedy did not read the bill either, because the standards are being griped about by the NEA as impossible to meet, and if the schools don't meet the standards, THEY DON'T GET THE MONEY. Har!

47 posted on 06/09/2002 6:45:46 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: LarryLied;angelique;miss Marple
Cliton got credit for being slick but he wasn't because everyone knew he was
being slick. Bush is slick and you don't discover it until the deal is done months later.

Has everything to do with Clinton's gargantuan ego and his high-risk (liberal) lifestyle. As a conservative, Bush is
psychologically centered. Doesn't need the stroking and gratification bobble-headed Clinton could not live without.

48 posted on 06/09/2002 7:03:29 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Miss Marple
Apparently Senator Kennedy did not read the bill ....

Can't do much reading when you're underwater......

49 posted on 06/09/2002 7:09:00 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting.
50 posted on 06/09/2002 7:11:43 AM PDT by sunshine state
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To: LarryLied
Bush is slick and you don't discover it until the deal is done months later.

And he lets the criticism roll right off of his back. Anyone who says that this president is poll driven is blind. Even now the pundits are going on and on about Bush's flip flop on this, as if he slapped this plan together at the last minute in order to distract our attention from the intelligence hearing.

51 posted on 06/09/2002 7:55:31 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Quix
Adding Coast Guard, INS, Secret Service . . . hmmmmm would sure be easy to fit snuggly into world dictator agenda and SOP's it seems to me.

Anything good can be used by evil, that doesn't mean that we can't do those things which will benefit us because someday it could be used against us. The simple fact is, as proven by recent months, we're a whole lot smarter than ANY government. Remember, government is us and it only has the power WE give it. We're a free people, it's our nature, it's our very soul. No dictator could ever take us over because if they ever did they would end up with nothing. Our success, our prosperity, our innovation is all a result of freeing the human mind to create. Without that, there is no innovation, there is no progress, there is no prosperity.

Besides, we would be such an unbearable handful that NO dictator would survive it. We'd simply find a way around anything they could come up with. We'd be such a royal pain in the backside they'd give up.......or die.

52 posted on 06/09/2002 8:07:53 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Pokey78
Great find, Pokey. Thanks.
53 posted on 06/09/2002 8:08:24 AM PDT by Lorena
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To: LarryLied
I've been watching it for months Larry. You could see it in Ridge's face. He did not look like a man who was in a powerless position regardless of what was being said. There was a steely confidence there and a determination. You could also see it in Bush's face when you'd see them together.

Bush is approaching this government like a White Knight (men who save companies and the good people who work for them). The first months are spent assessing. Those who go in a make big moves right off the bat are dangerous, those who assess the problems will succeed. There are a lot of people who are very good at making themselves look good. There are tons of quiet people who never get the credit, but do most of the work. Anyone thinking of making changes has to figure out which is which. Looks like that is exactly what they've done here.

54 posted on 06/09/2002 8:17:57 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Liz
You are making me laugh so hard. Do you recall Hitlary stating she was sick of the VRWC? How dare that Jennifer Flowers. This is important stuff. After alll, you have to looks impotent to be impotent.
55 posted on 06/09/2002 8:28:18 AM PDT by Angelique
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To: PogySailor
Blows holes in all the "Bush did this to distract from Congressional hearings" theories doesn't it?

Dowd and Frank Rich, among others, have been peddling this line. This story in the Post will blow holes in that.

The Rats are left with the Same Old Same Old.

Now that the new Department is well on its way to completion, time for the Next Phase, one that Bush and Cheney have been beating on.

On to Baghdad.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

56 posted on 06/09/2002 8:37:17 AM PDT by section9
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To: Pokey78, ernest at the beach, miss marple
Pokey thanks for the latest re our Stealth President as Miss Marple so correctly labeled him.

The History Channel ran a special on D Day in the evening about the incredible secrecy and miss info that was used.

If the secret had not been maintained re the real landing area and the miss info not used, our brave men might have been defeated in that critical landing. History could have been changed forever and not for the good.

Too many phoney conservatives and of course the rats from the 1960/70's who hated America and our military then, hate America and our military even more today. They don't just leak secrets. They let them pour like water over Niagra Falls.

This is another great job by the stealth president and his people whom know how to keep secrets.

57 posted on 06/09/2002 8:37:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Liz, Miss Marple
Apparently Senator Kennedy did not read the bill ....

Can't do much reading when you're underwater......

Kennedy can read? Come on, you must be kidding!

58 posted on 06/09/2002 8:42:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Kennedy can read?.......you must be kidding!

He can so read. His fave book is The Bridges of Chappaquiddick.

59 posted on 06/09/2002 8:55:05 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
I understand that book was ghost written and then ghost read to Teddy, the walking/shaky ton of blubber.
60 posted on 06/09/2002 8:58:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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