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Theory of 'intelligent design' isn't ready for natural selection
The Seattle Times ^ | 6/3/2002 | Mindy Cameron

Posted on 06/07/2002 11:35:28 AM PDT by jennyp

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To: Junior
In Economics, this is called "Communism". Remember Communists? They were always railing against the "anarchy of the marketplace" in favor of rational design of industries & economies by highly trained soviets armed with 5-year plans. They were convinced that this ID approach would create lasting prosperity the likes of which anarchistic, evolutionary Capitalism could never hope to approach.

12 posted on 6/7/02 12:24 PM Pacific by jennyp

Talk about twisted...evolution is reverso-whacko-sicko 'science'.

Creation was founded on natural design...Adam Smith---'the invisible hand'.

Communism--fascism is from EVOLUTION---inevitable progess---TYRANNY!

53 posted on 6/7/02 1:12 PM Pacific by f.Christian

321 posted on 06/08/2002 1:42:00 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Junior
One whacko is amusing. Two or more become a movement.
322 posted on 06/08/2002 1:59:28 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Condorman
Gratuitously insulting rats won't make you any friends, you know.
323 posted on 06/08/2002 2:02:14 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: PatrickHenry
One whacko is amusing. Two or more become a movement.

Pegged it. These people make any attempt at intelligent discussion a waste of time.

324 posted on 06/08/2002 2:09:31 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: jennyp
The theory is essentially this: Life is so complex that it can only be the result of design by an intelligent being.

This is so much more a plausible theory than: Complex life just sponteously Combusted into it's complex closed cirvo form.

Futhermore there is much more evidence for ID than evolution...Entropy alone puts evolution to shame.

325 posted on 06/08/2002 2:12:41 PM PDT by sirchtruth
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To: sirchtruth
Entropy alone puts evolution to shame.

Really? Could you explain this for us?

326 posted on 06/08/2002 2:17:58 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro
Dynastic Etypt apparently starts somewhere around 900 or 1000 BC.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Laugh all you want, Reep; you will be the last generation of your own family who ever believes in in an Egyptian history going back to 3000 BC; they won't even be teaching that in schools five years from now. This is the one area of Velikovsky's research which has pretty much found general acceptance amongst experts at this point.

But don't take my word for it. Do your own google searches on 'chronology' and 'revision', and see if what turns up is the one or two hits you'd expect if this was something two or three weirdos believed in.

327 posted on 06/08/2002 2:20:59 PM PDT by medved
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To: PatrickHenry
Main Entry: en·tro·py
Pronunciation: 'en-tr&-pE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -pies
Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary 2en- + Greek tropE change, literally, turn, from trepein to turn Date: 1875
1 : a measure of the unavailable energy in a closed thermodynamic system that is also usually considered to be a measure of the system's disorder and that is a property of the system's state and is related to it in such a manner that a reversible change in heat in the system produces a change in the measure which varies directly with the heat change and inversely with the absolute temperature at which the change takes place; broadly : the degree of disorder or uncertainty in a system
2 a : the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity b : a process of degradation or running down or a trend to disorder
3 : CHAOS, DISORGANIZATION, RANDOMNESS
328 posted on 06/08/2002 2:22:38 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: gg188
Sounds like you've pretty much figured it out.

For the lowdown on Chuck Darwin, stupidest white man of all time and his BS theory, and on the continuing efforts of feebs like Steve Gould and Niles Eldredge to keep the charade going for another generation:


329 posted on 06/08/2002 2:27:17 PM PDT by medved
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To: medved
Aw, nothing refutes evolution better than this picture, n'est-ce pas?
330 posted on 06/08/2002 2:35:44 PM PDT by BMCDA
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To: medved
Laugh all you want, Reep; you will be the last generation of your own family who ever believes in in an Egyptian history going back to 3000 BC; they won't even be teaching that in schools five years from now. This is the one area of Velikovsky's research which has pretty much found general acceptance amongst experts at this point.

I guess that if this prediction doesn't pan out:

1) You'll shut up and go away in five years (least likely), or
2) You'll say it was the mainstream science/history conspiracy that suppressed the truth, or (most likely)
3) You'll be posting the same spam with the same words, meaning the effective date of your claim slides into the future at the rate of one day per real day.

331 posted on 06/08/2002 2:38:10 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: medved
Laugh all you want, Reep; you will be the last generation of your own family who ever believes in in an Egyptian history going back to 3000 BC; they won't even be teaching that in schools five years from now.

I'm making a note of this so that I can have a good chuckle at your expense June 8, 2007.

332 posted on 06/08/2002 2:45:09 PM PDT by Junior
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To: BMCDA
ba-ba-ba
Where's PH? ;-D
333 posted on 06/08/2002 2:46:09 PM PDT by BMCDA
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To: jennyp
You'll notice that these spams are all ink and no squid.
334 posted on 06/08/2002 2:46:53 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Junior
The Great God Ra, whose shrine once covered acres
Now serves as filler for crossword puzzle makers.

Paraphrase from Keith Preston

335 posted on 06/08/2002 2:51:44 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: PatrickHenry
The oceans cover about 75% of the earth, which was created for Man, who has no gills.
336 posted on 06/08/2002 2:54:47 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: medved; VadeRetro
Dynastic Egypt apparently starts somewhere around 900 or 1000 BC. Again, Sweeney's two books are the best place to start on this one.

Whatever the date of it's inception (and I'm OK with approx. 3000 BC), both modern Archaeology and the Bible both place a well-established Dynastic Egypt long before 1000 BC.

It would appear Sweeney is a rather ambitious "debunker."




337 posted on 06/08/2002 2:57:46 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"all ink and no squid."

I'll be stealing that, thanks.




338 posted on 06/08/2002 2:59:24 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: gg188
Yet we (conservatives) know that these people who write and have written the "science" on "evolution" would never have been hired had they not passed the test of being socialist/communist.

Would you please show in writing where I passed such a test. Either that or apologize.

If all you can do is shout "communist" at those you disagree, why should one pay attention.

339 posted on 06/08/2002 3:01:02 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Doctor Stochastic
You'll notice that these spams are all ink and no squid.

Maybe it was partly the Bear Ale (thank you, Scotland), but that just made me laugh out loud!

I think that to a real philosopher, nothing is more important than a good belly laugh!

340 posted on 06/08/2002 3:01:38 PM PDT by balrog666
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