Posted on 06/03/2002 2:27:01 PM PDT by Seti 1
You posted an article on it. Something about the Jews that helped the Nazi's. Think man think.
Oh really? Just prior to the incursions into the fetid West Bank, homicide bombings were happening every day, and now far fewer of them are being done. That means more Jews don't get murdered while trying to have lunch or shop or have coffee or participate in religious ceremonies.
And I do think that Buckley's well into his second childhood. His articles haven't made sense in years.
1.2 million Arabs live in Israel. Why should Palestine be 100% Jew-free?
Even though this violates a treaty they signed with Arafat in 1967.
You are hallucinating. There was no such treaty.
What proportion of these Arabs are Palestinians?
From what I have heard the Israeli settlers don't allow Palestinians into their areas. If Palestinians in Israel stopped Israelis from coming into the areas they colonised, then wouldn't the Israelis also be angry?
As I asked before; how does killing civilians, destroying houses, schools, hospitals, Police stations and electricity/water supply infrastructre, help stop future terrorism?
When were the current borders of the Palestinian territories agreed upon then?
The final borders were never established.
Sharon's response was quite tame. Troops, not bombs were used. Infact, it was incomplete. He did not send troops into Gaza. Sharon's position is hardly extreme and was supported by the Labour party.
1. There was no treaty in 1967.
2. Considering they are negotiating borders, isn't it premature to talk about Palestinian terriroty?
The Arabs consider Jews retuirning to the Jewish quarter of Old Jerusalem to be settlers!
Besides, the Arabs are also building new communities. Whence the double standard.
Also how does killing civilians, destroying houses, schools, hospitals, Police stations and electricity/water supply infrastructre, help stop future terrorism?
Ask the Bush administration about Afghanistan!
As to the specific points, the PA police commited terrist acts and hid other terrorists from teh Israelis.
The destruction of infrastructure was unfortunate, but t he terrorists purposely hid among civilians in order to maximize collatoral damage.
By the way I am not an antisemite. I have Jewish friends (not Israelis) and they are actually very critical of the methods use by Israel to defend itself.
I suppose these American Jews opposed bombing Afghanistan?
Ron
PS. You wouldn't happen to be the David Hunter who went to Columbia B-school 2 years ago?
"Nations live or die by the way they respond to the particular challenges they face. Those challenges may be internal or external; they may be faced by a nation alone or in concert with other nations; they may come gradually or suddenly. There is no immutable law of nature that says only the unjust will be afflicted, or that the just will prevail. While might certainly does not make right, neither does right itself make might. The time when a nation most craves ease may be the moment when it can least afford to let down its guard. The moment when it most wishes it could address its domestic needs may be the moment when it most urgently has to confront an external threat. The nation that survives is the one that rises to meet that moment: that has the wisdom to recognize the threat and the will to turn it back, and that does so before it is too late." - Richard Nixon, The Real War, 1980.
I see. What is your morally-superior evaluation of the Allied bombing of Dresden in WWII? Jimmy Doolittle's raid on Tokyo? The atomic bomb blasts that ended the war in the Pacific theatre?
Nations have the right--and obligation--to defend themselves and their citizens.
Period.
--Boris
Actually, they are English and Russian. No, they didn't oppose the war in Afghanistan. In fact, the Russian was all for it, apparently Russia would have probably had a war with the Taliban in a couple of years anyway. The fact that the US and its allies are getting rid of the Taliban is great from the Russian perspective.
PS. You wouldn't happen to be the David Hunter who went to Columbia B-school 2 years ago?
No, actually I am English and have never even visited the USA.
I suppose these American Jews opposed bombing Afghanistan?
Sounds like he is still loyal to the Soviets. The UK should screen better.
No, actually I am English and have never even visited the USA.
That's rather provincial. You really should visit sometime.
I have relatives in England and have been to London, Cambridge, Oxford and Leeds.
As for your views, I get the feeling that you are still annoyed with Israel over the incidents preceding British withdrawl.
ex-snook: Obviously it's miliary aid. If the USA supplied enough military aid so people would be able to buy missiles, tanks, and gunships then they would not use cars, themselves, or even our own planes. You see if we provided military aid, then it would be 'collateral damage' and would end 'terrorism'. (/sarcasm)
I think it's buying power. If one can afford to buy the world's best weapon systems then one is not a terrorist. If one uses crude or improvised weapons against the most destructive, invasive and militarized powers on Earth the only outcome is death to you and your family.
God Bless the U.S. Constitution and may those who abuse and subvert that primal document rot.
Actually its a she. Apparently, the Russians were threatening to bomb the Taliban in 2000 because they were a threat to the bordering Russian Federation states. She told me that a war between Russia and the Taliban would have been guaranteed in a year or to, but for the 11th of September attacks.
As for your views, I get the feeling that you are still annoyed with Israel over the incidents preceding British withdrawl.
I don't recall expressing any views, just asking questions.
I am not against the Israelis. They are being attacked by suicide bombers and obviously have a right to defend themselves. But I can't help thinking that the methods they are using are likely to encourage Palestinian hatred against them and make terrorism even more of a problem in the future.
First of all, Mr. Hunter....it was never Palestinian territory in the first place...it's always belonged to Israel...during the time when our friend Billy The Loon Clintoooon, brokered the peace process in 93, he brought back Mr. (really Egyptian) Arafat from exile in Tunisa...after Arafat was kicked out of almost every country he tried to reside in because he reeked havoc and destruction everywhere he went...including his own country of Egypt....
Those settlements have been there for years and years...and they've taken that wasted land and created neighborhoods, schools, houses of worship, amongst other things....That land was always Israeli until the wonderful brokered "Peace" Process that hasn't given Israel one iota of peace....
Tell your Jewish friends...they should read up on Israel, and stop being such little wimps...what if someone came into their neighborhoods everyday, and blew up their family and friends....Tell them not to be so HORRIFIED, poor dears...
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