New Discoveries In Syria Confirm Theory On Spread Of Early Civilization

Newswise.com ^ | 6-2-2002 | Carrie Golus

[TADSLOS]

...back in the good old days, before Islam.

[blam]

I wonder when they will stop saying that Mesopotamia is the site of the beginning of civilization? This recent find beats Mesopotamia by a few thousand years.

Lost Civilisation From 7,500 BC Discovered Off Indian Coast
That's 9,500 years old!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Check your link on post #3.

[Stingray51]

Yes, and I believe that some of the Mayan ruins are actually thought to be way, way pre-Mayan.

[Billthedrill]

But Al-Azm and Gibson argue that the turning point in the development of civilization was not cities and writing originating in Mesopotamia, as commonly held, but deep changes in social structure that happened in more than one place at once.

They're probably right, but if you change the definition of what constitutes civilization you shouldn't be surprised if the inception date gets pushed back a bit as a result, or if the place of origin gets adjusted a bit.

Cities and writing are secondary measures at best. Beer is the signal characteristic of civilization. Can there be said to be civilization without beer? I thought not.

[facedown]

Lost Civilisation From 7,500 BC Discovered Off Indian Coast

Do you mean this story?

[Wm Bach]

Geologists who have studied the weathering and water erosion on Great Sphinx insist that it is more like 8,000 years old. Egyptologists are not happy with the findings of the rock guys, but of course the 'gyptos base their dates on something I believe is called the "Inventory Stela", which dates from a much more recent dynasty.

[RightWhale]

What surer sign of civilization can there be? Show me a clerk's rubber stamp and I will agree you have found a civilization.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Likely meant this :

Lost Civilisation From 7,500 BC Discovered Off Indian Coast

From ANANOVA.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[blam]

"Likely meant this :"

Yup. Thanks Ernest.

[blam]

"Do you mean this story?"

Yup. That one too. I made the post and went outside to water my plants. It`s 97 degrees and very dry here.

[blam]

"Geologists who have studied the weathering and water erosion on Great Sphinx insist that it is more like 8,000 years old. "

You mean this at 9,000 years old?

How Old Is The Sphinx?

[aristeides]

FYI.

[blam]

Rewriting The "Bible Of Egypyology"

[colorado tanker]

Not happy with the findings of the rock guys. The rock guys have also made intereting discoveries about the Black Sea region and have posited that for a time the center of middle eastern civilization was the fresh water lake that was flooded when the natural dam on the Bosporus broke. They are now exploring the ancient shorline, which is under water, for evidence, but it's a slow process using side-scanning sonar.

[blam]

Ballard And The Black Sea