Posted on 05/31/2002 9:28:33 AM PDT by xsysmgr
If you haven't seen it then it must not occur. Got it.
By way of partial answer to your challenge, many of the examples I could give you would come from my own biography, people I know personally, and thus would not impress you (and your request for "documented" examples).
The most recent "documented" (meaning, I guess, it was in the media...) example were some comments about soccer I recall hearing from Eleanor Clift on the McLaughlin group a year or two ago. No, sorry, I can't repeat her comments verbatim. I guess this means they did not occur and therefore you can continue your pose of pretending to believe that no leftists ever make pro-soccer comments for political reasons. Bravo!
A few offhanded comments by media liberals does not a conspiracy make.
Wait, so you admit there are such comments? But... but... I thought for the purposes of this post you were pretending to believe otherwise. Couldn't keep up the pose for even a whole paragraph, I see...
Anyway, what a tired straw man you beat on here. Good point genius, it's not a "conspiracy". You're right. What was I thinking?
Wait a sec. Who said anything was a "conspiracy" here? I am responding to comments from media liberals. You now admit that such comments are made. So what's your dispute with me? Pretending that my claims rest upon whether there's some kind of actual "conspiracy" is pretty cheap.
FYI, elitist leftists in Europe don't particularly care for soccer (or sport in general) and only pretend to do so when running for public office.
I'll make an even more general statement: elitist liberals don't particularly care for soccer (or sport in general) and only pretend to do so when it suits their political purposes. Running for office is one such purpose, but there are apparently others which I admit I do not fully understand (cf. Eleanor Clift pretending to care about soccer on a TV political talking head show for some reason..).
Your conspiracy theory is beyond bizarre, and merely theoretical or rhetorical - that is to say, not based on reality.
Yes, "my conspiracy theory" is bizarre. Not only that, but it doesn't exist other than in your head. Let me clue you in Mr. Disingenuous: I never had a "conspiracy theory" to begin with, just some observations about tendencies of people of a certain political stripe.
I realize of course that it's much easier to argue against me if you can pretend I said there was a "conspiracy". Sorry to burst your bubble, but I didn't. Try again.
I don't know if your a** is boring, but soccer sure is.
We will as soon as we get all these soccer fairies back in their place! ;o>
All kidding aside, I love American football too, but soccer is like religion or sex, it is a passion! Gooooooooll Goooooooooooolll
Thanks for illustrating for us all the condescending nature of soccer elitism.
My favorite sport is baseball, but I realize that many people don't like it and have no interest in it. To each his own. People have different tastes and I respect that.
By contrast, you are a soccer fan. You like soccer. But not only that, anyone who doesn't like soccer must be a knuckle-dragger! In your head there's simply no room for different tastes or opinions about the subject.
This disrespect for and disdain for the notion that other people can have different opinions from yourself illustrates perfectly why some soccer fans are so irritating. It's precisely the attitude I've been responding to in this thread. To certain elitist soccer fans (and leftists momentarily pretending to be soccer fans) there's just no way they can conceive of that anyone can honestly or legitimately form a negative opinion about soccer. Thus, all negative opinions about soccer must necessarily come from ignorance or xenophobia or head-in-the-sand stubbornness or knuckle-dragging or whatever.
Pure arrogance. Perhaps now you understand why I tire of the soccer proselytizers and react to them the way I do (whether their arrogant words and disrespectful attitudes are part of some coordinated "conspiracy" or not...).
You might find this to be an interesting article:
South Korean players display anti-U.S. gestures on field
Some samples:
``We knew that our people still have some grudge against the United States for the skating incident, so we wanted to allay that with the goal ceremony. It would have been much better if we had won the match,'' Ahn said. Ahn's celebration drew thunderous cheers from the home crowd
[...]
President Kim Dae-jung, concerned about possible anti-U.S. protests during Monday's match, did not go to the stadium.
Ahhhh..... "respect".
Fans of low-scoring hockey, tights-wearing baseball, and butt-touching players react agressively whenever they see soccer on TV. They say soccer is "less manly" even though soccer players beat the crap out of each of other with no helmets and no 20-minute sissy time outs 4 or 6 times for commercials or to spit.
Car racing is OK
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